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paint care expectation: swirls and polish skills inevitable?

Originally Posted by cdumitru78 How is the 370Z paint quality overall? I am coming from a 2013 Wrx, pearl white, and man, you even look at that car, it gets

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Old 05-22-2014, 11:47 AM   #31 (permalink)
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How is the 370Z paint quality overall? I am coming from a 2013 Wrx, pearl white, and man, you even look at that car, it gets paint chips on the front end, drove me nuts.
Terrible

The clear bra should help with the chips.
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:16 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Thank u, did the clear bra and opti coated the car, let's see how it goes.
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dude I wash my car almost every weekend by hand. I follow every high end car detailers advice you can even find on the internet. dual buckets, expensive *** microfiber, 2 different washmits, bad *** soap, light pressure washer, the best "commonly available" wax and care products available. I even had the car detailed and buffed once "to get rid of the nasty clear coat orange peel from factory" and asked where I could buy all his professional stuff like the sealant and finish cutters. And I can tell you ive got enough experience washing cars to start my own damn detailing business but if you own a car long enough, and you wash it.... EVENTUALLY you will get swirl marks, scratches and other ********. no matter how careful you are, as the years rack up it just happens. My advice is every 5 years or so of careful care, just have it buff/polish/wax detailed professionally for about 600 bucks. Eventually after doing THAT so many times you will need the car recleared if we are talking 10-15 years down the line. My car still looks like it rolled off the assembly line except for the damn road chips you cant avoid, and no more orange peel.
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I take real good care of my paint but no matter what I do I still get small swirl marks . I've only had my Z for 7 months (pearl white) and I bought it brand new and after the 3rd month I started seeing small rust spots on my hatch. Now it's all over and and even inside the door jams . Kind of upsetting
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I take real good care of my paint but no matter what I do I still get small swirl marks.
Correction, no matter what you have DONE, you've ended up with swirl marks. There are ways to avoid swirl marks, you just ain't doing the correct things. My paint has been swirl free for years and my videos show exactly how I avoid them. It's not rocket science, which is what I preach in those videos.

I would bet money that you sometimes remove dust from your car using a cloth and detail spray, correct?
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I would bet money that you sometimes remove dust from your car using a cloth and detail spray, correct?
Absolutely not! Even still, I just spent the better part of a Saturday correcting the paint on my wifes 2013 370z. (thanks Junkman for the instructional vids). I'm super careful washing my cars, and I bought a master blaster to dry them with. I think the marks I saw in the paint were from drying it with a chamois previous to getting the master blaster. I would recommend watching the Junkmans videos on paint care, and repair. He spells things out pretty thoroughly, and if you can follow directions you can obtain VERY satisfactory results. Just for the record I have a Harbor Freight DA polisher and I bought my pads from Detailers Domain, so I didn't tie up a huge amount of cash in equipment.(except for the master blaster)
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Absolutely not!
Actually, I was directing that question to Pearl Z.

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I think the marks I saw in the paint were from drying it with a chamois previous to getting the master blaster.
I can guarantee you that had something to do with any damage that you were experiencing, although I would not say it was your only issue. The media that you used to wash your car has a lot to do with it also, as well as whether or not you used a foam gun along with your 2-bucket wash. Everything that I do in my 2-bucket wash is EQUALLY important. No part of it can be skipped or side stepped without opening one's paint up to possible damage.

Remember this: If you at one time fixed ALL of the damage in your paint and the damage returns, it is something that YOU are doing that is causing it to return. At that point, you have to look at everything that you are doing when you touch your paint and figure out where the damage is being inflicted. This is what I did for years before coming up with my flawless procedures to protect my paint. I then put that to video and decided to share it with the world. If you alter any part of what I do, then you may or may not open your paint up to possible damage.
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Correction, no matter what you have DONE, you've ended up with swirl marks. There are ways to avoid swirl marks, you just ain't doing the correct things. My paint has been swirl free for years and my videos show exactly how I avoid them. It's not rocket science, which is what I preach in those videos.

I would bet money that you sometimes remove dust from your car using a cloth and detail spray, correct?
Yes I need to use a method. I'll take a look at your video.
No, I have never used a cloth,and detail spray on any of my cars.

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people still use chamois, huh? that's like using a sponge to wash the car.

i use waffleweave and blot dry. never slide the towel.
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people still use chamois, huh? that's like using a sponge to wash the car..
Not since I bought the master blaster, and watched the Junkmans videos. Junkman, if you took my previous post as disrespectful it wasn't meant that way. I've learned ALOT from watching your vids and I definitely appreciate the free education. Keep 'em coming!
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Not since I bought the master blaster, and watched the Junkmans videos. Junkman, if you took my previous post as disrespectful it wasn't meant that way. I've learned ALOT from watching your vids and I definitely appreciate the free education. Keep 'em coming!
Hell no man, I didn't take it that way whatsoever. Don't even sweat it. I hope I didn't appear that thinned-skinned being a Marine and all!
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Yes I need to use a method. I'll take a look at your video.
No, I have never used a cloth,and detail spray on any of my cars.
Then the next most probable culprit will be your wash technique and your wash medium.
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Then the next most probable culprit will be your wash technique and your wash medium.

Good Lord glad you still posting, I am still viewing and reviewing your basic orange and yellow pad M205 videos.
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What helps tremendously is as stated, how you wash (touch) your car. Another is a garage/carport. A garage helps tremendously in keeping your paint in good shape. Keeping it out of the weather/environment helps extend the time on when you need to do corrective actions.
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