Carbon Fiber Care

Amj2020 · 04-25-2014, 12:06 PM

So I know how to take care of paint but no idea how to take care of aftermarket CF parts like skirts, lips, and hoods. Do they have clearcoat? Can you polish them the same way? Are other products indicated for such materials??
Detailing never ends..
Wonder if junkman has 2 cents on this.

Chuck33079 · 04-25-2014, 12:10 PM

I've always recleared CF pieces, and then just treated them like any other clearcoated part of the car. Most of that stuff has a gelcoat on it, but unless you have some clear sprayed on it you run the risk of yellowing.

Amj2020 · 04-25-2014, 02:54 PM

Does the gelcoat need to be removed prior to the clear being applied? then just treat it like a painted surface? How long does it take before you would notice "yellowing" even if the car is a garage queen?

LostSol · 04-25-2014, 03:03 PM

Depends where you get it from. Ive found the gelcoat on Siebon stuff to be pretty damn good, just keep it waxed or sealed and youll be fine. Cheaper stuff like EVO-R needs to be recleared or it will eventually yellow even if you wax or seal it.

Riptide67 · 04-25-2014, 03:27 PM

It all depends on who it is from. AeroJacket has a clear coat and Evo-R claims to have it as well. Seibon is hit or miss. I wax and seal frequently since a lot of my car is CF. Sun has a lot to do with it as well.

There is a carbon fiber glaze from Dr. Beasley's or something like that. I am going to get a bottle and see how it is.

I normally use all Griot's products and treat the clear coat/gel coat the same as normal paint.

Amj2020 · 04-25-2014, 04:11 PM

Thanks guys getting parts most likely from Seibon gonna stick with gel and keep it sealed and waxed for now hope since its indoors mostly it stays crisp.

Chuck33079 · 04-25-2014, 04:12 PM

Bad call. Getting something cleared is cheap. If it turns yellow it's forever.

jaybulls · 04-25-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Bad call. Getting something cleared is cheap. If it turns yellow it's forever.

how cheap, chuck? i was quoted $100 to re-clear aerojackets duckbill...

is it true that aero's clear is the real deal?

Chuck33079 · 04-25-2014, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jaybulls

how cheap, chuck? i was quoted $100 to re-clear aerojackets duckbill...

That's not bad. Every body shop is going to be different, but it shouldn't be a lot of money. And it beats having it turn yellow on you because you cheaped out at the end.

jaybulls · 04-25-2014, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That's not bad. Every body shop is going to be different, but it shouldn't be a lot of money. And it beats having it turn yellow on you because you cheaped out at the end.

haha...i understand the "cheapenin' out" concept but then the other dealer recommended installer, besides the painter, wants $250/275 to install the wing with me already having the oem spoiler...things add up...inquiring minds need to know...thx, bro'...

dkinghl · 04-26-2014, 03:16 AM

Clear coat is not a problem. You can get 3M paint defender for 25 bucks at Walmart , whatever
Sun UV is a BIG BIG problem as Seibon ( although a very reputive seller ,reviewed by many), carbon creation (mine hood) does not provide UV clear coat (if they havei doubt they have to proudly advertise it).

The only solution now(as i know) is turtle wax + merguras that strongly advertise they provide UV protectant on their product.

keep me informed. Now i still hide my Z on a storage until i can find a good UV solution

kenchan · 04-26-2014, 06:39 PM

i used krylon uv resistant clear coat on my ings+1.

cheshirecat · 05-02-2014, 10:03 AM

IMO, assume the CF does not have a strong enough clear from the factory to prevent UV damage to the weave.

Spraying a clear over it is a great way to protect the piece, but (again, in my opinion) every surface CF piece needs to have UV protection from a quality uva//uvb sealant at the very least.

SgtGoldy · 05-03-2014, 12:18 PM

you should ask Billet370:

[URL=http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/billet370/media/1484081_10153951612220274_935668883_n_zps722e87e8. jpg.html]

6MT-Z34 · 07-28-2014, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Bad call. Getting something cleared is cheap. If it turns yellow it's forever.

If it turns yellow...can you just paint over it? If it yellows I would prefer painting it than have it like that

04-25-2014, 12:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Amj2020 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY/LI Posts: 393 Drives: MB Z,Jeep,BMW Rep Power: 13	Carbon Fiber Care So I know how to take care of paint but no idea how to take care of aftermarket CF parts like skirts, lips, and hoods. Do they have clearcoat? Can you polish them the same way? Are other products indicated for such materials?? Detailing never ends.. Wonder if junkman has 2 cents on this.

04-25-2014, 12:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I've always recleared CF pieces, and then just treated them like any other clearcoated part of the car. Most of that stuff has a gelcoat on it, but unless you have some clear sprayed on it you run the risk of yellowing. cheshirecat and CarbonFZ like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

04-25-2014, 03:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
LostSol Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,021 Drives: 2010 370z 40th A.E. Rep Power: 15	Depends where you get it from. Ive found the gelcoat on Siebon stuff to be pretty damn good, just keep it waxed or sealed and youll be fine. Cheaper stuff like EVO-R needs to be recleared or it will eventually yellow even if you wax or seal it. __________________ 2010 Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition #762/1000 \| Forgestar \| Michelin \| Swift \| TRS \| Z Speed \| ARK \| Z1 \| Hawk \| CFE \| Evo-R \| GTMat \| Stillen \| Seibon \| Whiteline \| Pioneer \|

04-25-2014, 03:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Riptide67 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Age: 37 Posts: 1,610 Drives: 09 Nismo #0483 PW Rep Power: 69	It all depends on who it is from. AeroJacket has a clear coat and Evo-R claims to have it as well. Seibon is hit or miss. I wax and seal frequently since a lot of my car is CF. Sun has a lot to do with it as well. There is a carbon fiber glaze from Dr. Beasley's or something like that. I am going to get a bottle and see how it is. I normally use all Griot's products and treat the clear coat/gel coat the same as normal paint. __________________ 2009 Nismo 370Z and 1975 Datsun 280Z 2+2 - PNW_INC - Legacy_Ohana Follow me on Instagam @s3zero_z3four

04-25-2014, 04:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Bad call. Getting something cleared is cheap. If it turns yellow it's forever. Wonka2581 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

04-25-2014, 02:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Amj2020 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY/LI Posts: 393 Drives: MB Z,Jeep,BMW Rep Power: 13	Does the gelcoat need to be removed prior to the clear being applied? then just treat it like a painted surface? How long does it take before you would notice "yellowing" even if the car is a garage queen?

04-25-2014, 04:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Amj2020 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY/LI Posts: 393 Drives: MB Z,Jeep,BMW Rep Power: 13	Thanks guys getting parts most likely from Seibon gonna stick with gel and keep it sealed and waxed for now hope since its indoors mostly it stays crisp.

04-26-2014, 03:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
dkinghl Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: texas Posts: 169 Drives: 390z Rep Power: 11	Clear coat is not a problem. You can get 3M paint defender for 25 bucks at Walmart , whatever Sun UV is a BIG BIG problem as Seibon ( although a very reputive seller ,reviewed by many), carbon creation (mine hood) does not provide UV clear coat (if they havei doubt they have to proudly advertise it). The only solution now(as i know) is turtle wax + merguras that strongly advertise they provide UV protectant on their product. keep me informed. Now i still hide my Z on a storage until i can find a good UV solution

04-26-2014, 06:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i used krylon uv resistant clear coat on my ings+1.

05-02-2014, 10:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
cheshirecat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,428 Drives: N54 135i Rep Power: 292	IMO, assume the CF does not have a strong enough clear from the factory to prevent UV damage to the weave. Spraying a clear over it is a great way to protect the piece, but (again, in my opinion) every surface CF piece needs to have UV protection from a quality uva//uvb sealant at the very least.

05-03-2014, 12:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	you should ask Billet370: [URL=http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/billet370/media/1484081_10153951612220274_935668883_n_zps722e87e8. jpg.html] __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

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