paint garbage??

RyanWest · 02-19-2014, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cheshirecat

The orange peel issue has become more apparent with all manufacturers over the last decade+

That doesn't have to do with poor paint technique as much as the modernization of fleet painting in regard to environmental impact. Without getting too technical, paint (both colored and clear) can't atomize as well as it could before these large companies embraced environmentally-friendly painting chemicals and techniques.

The sad thing is that it's very difficult to fix orange peel on factory paint as it's a surface flaw in a very, very thin clear coat. My Z had it all over the rear fenders, but luckily the rest of the car was pretty decent.

Orange peel is caused by incorrect painting technique. There are many factors on how it is caused.

cheshirecat · 02-20-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanWest

Orange peel is caused by incorrect painting technique. There are many factors on how it is caused.

That may have been the case before manufacturers had to change their paint to conform with environmental regulations, but it is simply not the case now.

The orange peel phenomenon plagues entire ranges of brand new cars from many manufacturers due to the requirement that they use non-toxic paints that don't atomize or cure as well as older paint blends.

Couple that lower-quality paint with the thinnest paint layers that the manufacturer can get away with and you'll see orange peel. It happens on many volume manufacturers from Ford to BMW.

Other manufacturers such as Porsche, MB, Audi, Aston Martin, and other higher-end/marquee brands tend to experience less orange peel due to more liberal application of these newer paints which are usually water-based.

Technique can only go so far when your materials and cost need to meet a certain specification.

Chuck33079 · 02-20-2014, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat

That may have been the case before manufacturers had to change their paint to conform with environmental regulations, but it is simply not the case now.

The orange peel phenomenon plagues entire ranges of brand new cars from many manufacturers due to the requirement that they use non-toxic paints that don't atomize or cure as well as older paint blends.

Couple that lower-quality paint with the thinnest paint layers that the manufacturer can get away with and you'll see orange peel. It happens on many volume manufacturers from Ford to BMW.

Other manufacturers such as Porsche, MB, Audi, Aston Martin, and other higher-end/marquee brands tend to experience less orange peel due to more liberal application of these newer paints which are usually water-based.

Technique can only go so far when your materials and cost need to meet a certain specification.

Yep. Thanks, EPA. Water based ********.

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