Amazing Mirror Like Shine - Wash, Clay, Polish then Wax.

Ackrite · 11-22-2012, 07:09 PM

Yup, I used a PC 7424xp. I gotta give a big thanks to Junkman and all the time he put into making his videos for people like me to at least have an idea as to what the hell I'm doing. I haven't got around to taking pics because of Thanksgiving preparations, but even then white cars don't quite "Pop" and make you say "Wow" in photos like other color vehicles when they are freshly fully detailed.

Junkman2008 · 11-27-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite

Yup, I used a PC 7424xp. I gotta give a big thanks to Junkman and all the time he put into making his videos for people like me to at least have an idea as to what the hell I'm doing. I haven't got around to taking pics because of Thanksgiving preparations, but even then white cars don't quite "Pop" and make you say "Wow" in photos like other color vehicles when they are freshly fully detailed.

Looks like you came out well by doing this yourself. Nothing like being able to pat yourself on the back.

I'm curious as to why you went with a glaze instead of a polish?

Stino · 11-27-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Looks like you came out well by doing this yourself. Nothing like being able to pat yourself on the back.

I'm curious as to why you went with a glaze instead of a polish?

Thanks! Junkman2008, honestly I'm no expert, however, I started to do some research and read somewhere that the #7 Mirror Glaze was the same as a polish without abrasiveness. There were several posts on other forums where people seemed to use it like a polish. So considering it's been garage and covered since buying it new; I though a non-abrasive type of polish would be adequate.

It's a 2010 with only 2040 miles. It's not my daily driver, just weekend fun when I have the time. This car is more like a hobby of mine, I enjoy modding my Z when I have the time.

What's your thoughts. Did I make the right decision? I would like some feedback. I'll tell ya ... it really surprised me how smooth and shiny the paint turned-out.

Regards,

Stino

Junkman2008 · 11-28-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Stino

Thanks! Junkman2008, honestly I'm no expert, however, I started to do some research and read somewhere that the #7 Mirror Glaze was the same as a polish without abrasiveness. There were several posts on other forums where people seemed to use it like a polish. So considering it's been garage and covered since buying it new; I though a non-abrasive type of polish would be adequate.

Well, they definitely passed you some bum scoop on that one. A glaze is NOT a polish. A glaze is a product that is used to fill in paint damage without removing any clear coat (which is what a polish would do). In order to repair the damage in your clear coat, you have to shave it down to the point where no damage resides. The amount that you shave it down depends on how deep the damage is. With the PC, you are NOT going to be shaving down any significant amount of clear coat at any time and that's why it takes so long to repair stuff with a PC. However, that's also what makes the PC so safe for a novice.

By using a glaze, the only thing you're doing is masking the damage. It is still there, and will reveal itself after you've washed the car enough times. Detailers, body shops and dealerships will use a glaze to make your car look perfect when you come to pick it up. However, after a month of washing, all the scratches will eventually show back up. That's why you never see me use a glaze in any of my videos. I want the damage removed, not masked.

newyen27 · 11-28-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Well, they definitely passed you some bum scoop on that one. A glaze is NOT a polish. A glaze is a product that is used to fill in paint damage without removing any clear coat (which is what a polish would do). In order to repair the damage in your clear coat, you have to shave it down to the point where no damage resides. The amount that you shave it down depends on how deep the damage is. With the PC, you are NOT going to be shaving down any significant amount of clear coat at any time and that's why it takes so long to repair stuff with a PC. However, that's also what makes the PC so safe for a novice.

By using a glaze, the only thing you're doing is masking the damage. It is still there, and will reveal itself after you've washed the car enough times. Detailers, body shops and dealerships will use a glaze to make your car look perfect when you come to pick it up. However, after a month of washing, all the scratches will eventually show back up. That's why you never see me use a glaze in any of my videos. I want the damage removed, not masked.

Silly question, Junkman... Based on how you described polishes, is it possible to polish your car so many times that you essentially "sand" all of your clearcoat away? Also, if I use a polish like Liquid Glass LG-100 Ultimate, do I still need to wax my car?

Stino, your car looks amazing.

Junkman2008 · 11-28-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by newyen27

Silly question, Junkman... Based on how you described polishes, is it possible to polish your car so many times that you essentially "sand" all of your clearcoat away? Also, if I use a polish like Liquid Glass LG-100 Ultimate, do I still need to wax my car?

Stino, your car looks amazing.

You need to watch these videos to get a better understanding about the first question that you are asking.

As for that product, it sounds more like snake oil than anything and I would not want to put that stuff on my car. If I were you, I would use a true wax on my car. That stuff is NOT a polish or a wax. It's more like some kind of coating.

Stino · 12-01-2012, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Well, they definitely passed you some bum scoop on that one. A glaze is NOT a polish. A glaze is a product that is used to fill in paint damage without removing any clear coat (which is what a polish would do).

By using a glaze, the only thing you're doing is masking the damage. It is still there, and will reveal itself after you've washed the car enough times. Detailers, body shops and dealerships will use a glaze to make your car look perfect when you come to pick it up. However, after a month of washing, all the scratches will eventually show back up. That's why you never see me use a glaze in any of my videos. I want the damage removed, not masked.

Junkman2008, so far I watched six of your videos, All 2 HRS & 56 MIN worth from the link you provided in this thread. I'm very impressed with the knowledge you share on paint correction/protection. Not that I did a bad job with my 370Z a couple of weekends ago (the paint is in outstanding condition and easy to care for at this point), nevertheless, I would have tweaked my process some after watching your videos. I have a 4Runner that can benefit from what I've learned watching your videos and will be doing some paint correction on it in a couple of weeks. I've always done a two bucket wash, and my process of shining a car is very similar to yours. With that said, I will change my process and some of the products I use to closely match yours.

You're very thorough and know your stuff.

Thanks for the help! It's much appreciated.

Regards,

Stino

Junkman2008 · 12-01-2012, 04:24 AM

Thank you sir! Being thorough is what makes my videos so long. A few guys will complain but leaving no stones unturned is the way I learn. The way I figure it, most of the people watching my videos think the same way I do.

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11-22-2012, 07:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ackrite Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: fontana, ca Posts: 190 Drives: '12 White Nismo Z Rep Power: 14	Yup, I used a PC 7424xp. I gotta give a big thanks to Junkman and all the time he put into making his videos for people like me to at least have an idea as to what the hell I'm doing. I haven't got around to taking pics because of Thanksgiving preparations, but even then white cars don't quite "Pop" and make you say "Wow" in photos like other color vehicles when they are freshly fully detailed.