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Originally Posted by Rone YouTube - junkman2000 two bucket Seems to be a solid system. There are a lot of threads on this, though. Awesome set of videos. I was

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Old 03-24-2011, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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YouTube - junkman2000 two bucket

Seems to be a solid system. There are a lot of threads on this, though.
Awesome set of videos. I was laughing my *** off at the 2:50 mark of part 2 (where gets a phone call).

Thank you for this, I'll be following this for my first wash as well.

I don't have time to order from Amazon since I want to wash it tomorrow after the rain is gone - where do you suppose one gets all the products for a reasonable price?

Adjustable Hose Nozzle
The quick disconnect adapter he used
Foam Gun
2 buckets with Grit Guards
Wash mitts

And what products does he use in the foam gun, etc.?

Thanks again!

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I just spent 300 dollars at an online store buying all the items you described Jeff, plus a few more, I am buying into the idea of an electric leaf blower like the guy in the video uses.
Thanks for all the help guys, you all have a lot of knowledge! I love this car, I hate the fact that I am away on business and cant drive it!!

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$300??? Can you briefly itemize what you bought at what prices? Yikes, was not looking to spend this much but if it's what will keep my paint nice then I gotta put up the bucks.

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You can never go wrong with any of the Adams polish stuff any order gets u a DVD of how to wash,dry,clay polish and wax your car made me go and spend alot of money there.
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Awesome set of videos. I was laughing my *** off at the 2:50 mark of part 2 (where gets a phone call).

Thank you for this, I'll be following this for my first wash as well.

I don't have time to order from Amazon since I want to wash it tomorrow after the rain is gone - where do you suppose one gets all the products for a reasonable price?

Adjustable Hose Nozzle
The quick disconnect adapter he used
Foam Gun
2 buckets with Grit Guards
Wash mitts

And what products does he use in the foam gun, etc.?

Thanks again!

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$300??? Can you briefly itemize what you bought at what prices? Yikes, was not looking to spend this much but if it's what will keep my paint nice then I gotta put up the bucks.
He uses distilled water with some adam's soap. correct me if im wrong.
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Awesome set of videos. I was laughing my *** off at the 2:50 mark of part 2 (where gets a phone call).

Thank you for this, I'll be following this for my first wash as well.

I don't have time to order from Amazon since I want to wash it tomorrow after the rain is gone - where do you suppose one gets all the products for a reasonable price?

Adjustable Hose Nozzle
The quick disconnect adapter he used
Foam Gun
2 buckets with Grit Guards
Wash mitts

And what products does he use in the foam gun, etc.?

Thanks again!
If you don't want to use the products from the vid, I'm sure you could do a search on the net and find other brands that do the same. But if you go to Adams Polishes [dot] com you'll find that they have a kit that you can buy for a ridiculous price.
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If you don't want to use the products from the vid, I'm sure you could do a search on the net and find other brands that do the same. But if you go to Adams Polishes [dot] com you'll find that they have a kit that you can buy for a ridiculous price.
I seemed to have picked everything out to keep it around $200. I still cannot figure out what the heck he's putting in the foam gun? Did I completely miss something?

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I believe he is just using the car wash.

Also: Adam's Dual Action Car Polishing Accessory Kit BAM!

I haven used the foam gun yet, but the wash mitt Adams sells are awesome!
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I seemed to have picked everything out to keep it around $200. I still cannot figure out what the heck he's putting in the foam gun? Did I completely miss something?

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He uses distilled water with some adam's soap. correct me if im wrong.
That would be wrong. I use regular ol' tap water and Adam's Car Wash.

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I seemed to have picked everything out to keep it around $200. I still cannot figure out what the heck he's putting in the foam gun? Did I completely miss something?
No, I never said what I was using. I made those videos for a detailing website that has no access to the products I use because they are located in the UK. Like I said above, I used Adam's car wash.

Here is my kit that I tell people to buy if they want to get and keep their paint looking like mine. The first thing that you are going to notice is the price. You are going to think that the price is high. That's normal for folks who no nothing about quality detailing products and who are getting into serious paint care for the first time. I have been where you are.

Everything in my kit is there for a specific reason. Also, everything in my kit is made in America, and none of it is crap that is made in China. Until you can look at my paint in person, you will not be able to appreciate what that kit contains and how much of a bargain that kit really is.

Most of the stuff in my kit is a one time purchase. The only thing that you will be replacing is the car wash and the detail spray (about $30). Everything else will do multiple cars if you use it right and quit destroying your paint by washing the car wrong. That's the part of paint maintenance that so many people miss. You don't buy my kit to fix your paint a bunch of times, you buy my kit to fix your paint ONCE, and then you properly maintain it from that day forward. If you don't continue to destroy your paint, you won't have to keep fixing it.

I could preach and preach on why you're wasting your money on some over the counter products but all you have to do is look at all the threads that I have started on this forum and you will immediately get an idea as to what I can do with paint. I do NOT do it with stuff made in China, I use quality supplies.

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Everything in my kit is there for a specific reason. Also, everything in my kit is made in America, and none of it is crap that is made in China. Until you can look at my paint in person, you will not be able to appreciate what that kit contains and how much of a bargain that kit really is.


I could preach and preach on why you're wasting your money on some over the counter products but all you have to do is look at all the threads that I have started on this forum and you will immediately get an idea as to what I can do with paint. I do NOT do it with stuff made in China, I use quality supplies.
Anyone can achieve those results. It takes practice and experience, but it is much easier than people may be led to believe. Also, you can attain similar, if not the same results with quality over the counter products such as Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Swirl X or sealants such as Duragloss 105 and 111. Any good product can produce spectacular results if used properly, it is not a factor of over the counter vs. boutique products in most cases.

Also, just because something is made in China does not mean it is of lower quality. There are many Chinese made products that are of higher quality than US made products, and vice versa. I do agree 100% that knowing how to maintain a fully corrected paint finish is as important if not more important than knowing how to polish.

I polished my Saab's paint with Swirl-X, a black LC pad and a PC. Are these results inferior versus my Menzerna po85rd which is my go to finishing polish? No, I think the results speak for themselves. Process: Swirl-X, LC pads, PC, and was given an isopropyl alcohol wipe down. No wax or sealant is on the car: sun shots don't lie, you can achieve perfect results with over the counter products.


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Anyone can achieve those results.
If that was the case, why are there detailers making money off people who can't?

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It takes practice and experience, but it is much easier than people may be led to believe. Also, you can attain similar, if not the same results with quality over the counter products such as Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Swirl X or sealants such as Duragloss 105 and 111. Any good product can produce spectacular results if used properly, it is not a factor of over the counter vs. boutique products in most cases.
So there are some cases where over the counter products can't hold a candle to certain boutique products? I agree with that too. I would like to see you use some over the counter products to tackle some of the stuff that I linked too in my intro thread.

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Also, just because something is made in China does not mean it is of lower quality.
We're not talking about "something", we're talking specifically about detailing products. Nane one detailing product that is made in China, that is superior to any of the made in America products that I use. Name one!

Pretty much every "made in China" thing that I pick up is cheap in quality and performance. It is made there for a reason. Cheap labor and poor quality control. You get what you pay for when dealing China made goods.

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There are many Chinese made products that are of higher quality than US made products, and vice versa. I do agree 100% that knowing how to maintain a fully corrected paint finish is as important if not more important than knowing how to polish.

I polished my Saab's paint with Swirl-X, a black LC pad and a PC. Are these results inferior versus my Menzerna po85rd which is my go to finishing polish? No, I think the results speak for themselves. Process: Swirl-X, LC pads, PC, and was given an isopropyl alcohol wipe down. No wax or sealant is on the car: sun shots don't lie, you can achieve perfect results with over the counter products.
You can achieve perfect results with a few over the counter products depending on the severity of the damage. If things were as you state it, body shops would not bother spending the money they do on the quality products they use. They would do their shopping at Wally World. So why don't they?

They know that for the most part, you get what you pay for.
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If that was the case, why are there detailers making money off people who can't?
Because some people don't have the time, patience, or will to do it themselves. That doesn't mean they can't if they were to try.

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So there are some cases where over the counter products can't hold a candle to certain boutique products? I agree with that too. I would like to see you use some over the counter products to tackle some of the stuff that I linked too in my intro thread.
Sure: 50/50 of one pass with Meguiar's Ultimate Compound on a 1991 Saab 900 with just a Lake Country white pad and a PC, after IPA wipedown.



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We're not talking about "something", we're talking specifically about detailing products. Nane one detailing product that is made in China, that is superior to any of the made in America products that I use. Name one!
I know that is a big marketing ploy for Adams, but come on. I don't know if you have tried all the detailing products out there, but Chinese companies produce clay for Automagic which is one of the better clay bars available. Mytee carpet extractors are made in China, Chemical Guys microfiber towels that I have found to be consistently higher in quality compared to large brands such as Cobra. I'm sure there are more.

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Pretty much every "made in China" thing that I pick up is cheap in quality and performance. It is made there for a reason. Cheap labor and poor quality control. You get what you pay for when dealing China made goods.
You know that Apple produces the bulk of the parts for the iPad, iPhone, and iPod in Taiwan and China? I don't see quality issues there. I lived in China for 10 years, the quality of most products is distinguishable compared to other countries I lived in especially with more and more environmental, labor and production regulations that are in place. They produce a large percentage of raw ingredients that find their way into most products, even if they are made in the USA.

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You can achieve perfect results with a few over the counter products depending on the severity of the damage. If things were as you state it, body shops would not bother spending the money they do on the quality products they use. They would do their shopping at Wally World. So why don't they?

They know that for the most part, you get what you pay for.
There is no doubt about that, I was mainly arguing that you cannot make a blanket statement like that with no substantiation. It applies to certain things, but saying that all Chinese products are inferior or over the counter products are not up to par is wrong.
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