Nissan 370Z Forum  

Is Brushless Car Wash Okay?

What's the difference between a coin op and brushless? The brushless wash (sometimes laser wash) has nothing touch the car except water and detergents.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Detailing / Washing / Waxing / Cosmetic Maintenance and Repair


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-13-2011, 04:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,134
Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav
Rep Power: 17
wilsonp will become famous soon enough
Default

What's the difference between a coin op and brushless?

The brushless wash (sometimes laser wash) has nothing touch the car except water and detergents.
__________________
2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black
Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon
Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black
wilsonp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 04:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Dreezy562's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Long beach, ca
Posts: 419
Drives: 40th
Rep Power: 15
Dreezy562 will become famous soon enoughDreezy562 will become famous soon enough
Default

I dunno but I just watched mine roll thru a sprayer and had 4 mexican guys wash it while its rolling then it came out and got hand dried and now its sitting the shade getting waxed.
Dreezy562 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 07:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Cmike2780's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 5,059
Drives: slowwww
Rep Power: 29
Cmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonp View Post
What's the difference between a coin op and brushless?

The brushless wash (sometimes laser wash) has nothing touch the car except water and detergents.
It's basically a powerwasher you use yourself. There's setting for soap, rinse, brush etc. I don't use the brush, just the powerwasher to rinse the salt and loose dirt off in the winter. The water is heated and you basically roll into a semi-enclosed heated garage. The brushless is basically the same except a powerwash machine moves around the car with a wall of water. I've never been to one of these though, so I can't comment on exactly how it works.
__________________
[09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R]

Cmike2780 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 01:02 AM   #34 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,134
Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav
Rep Power: 17
wilsonp will become famous soon enough
Default

Ah, ty. I just use my garden hose in that case.
__________________
2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black
Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon
Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

Last edited by wilsonp; 03-14-2011 at 01:05 AM. Reason: Head off the gutter
wilsonp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 05:09 PM   #35 (permalink)
Base Member
 
OldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Greensburg PA
Posts: 899
Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7
Rep Power: 16
OldGuy has a spectacular aura aboutOldGuy has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmike2780 View Post
It's basically a powerwasher you use yourself. There's setting for soap, rinse, brush etc. I don't use the brush, just the powerwasher to rinse the salt and loose dirt off in the winter. The water is heated and you basically roll into a semi-enclosed heated garage. The brushless is basically the same except a powerwash machine moves around the car with a wall of water. I've never been to one of these though, so I can't comment on exactly how it works.
I've used the touchless machine often. You stay in the car and it's ok if the car is just dusty---then you finish the drying yourself with your own shammois on the lot. If the car is really dirty, it's no good----it just removes the outer layer of dust and when it dries, the car is still dirty. It's probably no better than the powerwash wand, which is a lot cheaper and what I use, as my Z is only a summer only, fair weather car and only gets dusty. But I'm getting lazy and thinking of using the automatic brushless washes with the crew that dries the car, etc. The opinions on those are mixed. With our delicate paint, I'm very hesitant and I'll probably continue to hand wash with the power wash wand and dry off myself. It does make for a nice job if the car's not too dirty and you're willing to make the effort.
OldGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 05:20 PM   #36 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 76,801
Drives: N/A
Rep Power: 141521
kenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond repute
Default

when i lived in an apartment way back when, i had to resort to carwash places.

when my car was only dusty i took it to the local gas station with the touchless (hand dried myself), and if it was rained on or wat not, took it to the manned handwash places and told them no tire dressing.
kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 08:37 PM   #37 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Orange County
Posts: 46
Drives: 09 370z Nismo
Rep Power: 14
Nismo_Q is on a distinguished road
Default

I use the brushless wash as my main method of washing my car because hand washing with a sponge will give my car swirl marks. Then I use a detailing stray to clean and dry off afterwards; no water spots. Then I polish and wax. Paint is like new and baby a$$ smooth. I also claybar every 3 months. Dusting it regularly helps a lot.
Nismo_Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 08:54 PM   #38 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 438
Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m
Rep Power: 16
nicknick is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyJinx View Post
*sigh* its just a Nissan :\
it does not matter what brand of car it is. to some people it is their pride and joy. hope you can understand that.
nicknick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 09:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
BalanBro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 318
Drives: 40th Anniv. 370Z
Rep Power: 1111
BalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond reputeBalanBro has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Touchless washes are relatively benign for the paint. The problem is during drying. Water pressure alone will leave behind small particles on the paint, especially if the car is really dirty. These will get caught up in the towels while drying and lead to swirl marks. If you have to use a touchless wash, it may be better to limit the drying to high pressure air. It won't get all of the water off, but will prevent surface contaminants from getting dragged all over your clearcoat.

I realize the above may be a bit OCD, but it's true and I am OCD about paint.
__________________
2012 Mercedes C63 AMG P31 Sedan, ROW, aFe, Eurocharged Dyno Tune. 438WHP/415WTQ
2010 SOLD: 40th Anniversary 370z
BalanBro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 09:09 PM   #40 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
AllForTheCash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 385
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 15
AllForTheCash is on a distinguished road
Default

I have used it on the Z and Previous cars when the weather is too cold. Sprays the undercarriage and blows the car dry. Never had any issues with my paint. But I hand wash/wax once the weather is warmer.
__________________
2010 370z Brilliant Silver/Frost - Touring - Sport - Navigation - 6MT
AllForTheCash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 09:27 AM   #41 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 60
Drives: 40th Anniversary Z
Rep Power: 15
rj45 is on a distinguished road
Default

On the odd occasion that I use a self spray wash place (usually only in the winter to remove road salt), I don't dry the car off. Spray washes don't remove all the grime, and wiping it around with the towel (even MF) is going to mar the paint to some degree.

Plus, most spray washes I've gone to hardly have any soap coming out...it's almost a total waste of time.

Regarding the touch-less automated washes, my pop uses them on occasion and the result is poor-to-fair...not worth the money, IMO. Properly hand washing it yourself (or by a professional) offers the best results.

For those who want to avoid doing a traditional hose wash, check out Optimum No-Rinse. When used properly, it cleans dirty cars safely. Heavy grime or debris should be rinsed with a hose or pressure washer before using ONR. There are plenty of threads on Autopia about using ONR properly. There are also some videos on youtube. No Rinse Wash and Shine

Last edited by rj45; 03-15-2011 at 09:31 AM.
rj45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 12:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 76,801
Drives: N/A
Rep Power: 141521
kenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond repute
Default

for drying after touchless washes i too agree that one would benefit using spray-on type car wash sprays while drying.
this provide the lubricity needed to lift remaining grit with minimal scratches.

i use Griot's SprayOn CarWash on my hobby cars as i rarely wash them with a bucket... (only drive on nice days).
kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2011, 10:18 AM   #43 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Brutal 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Greater Toronto Area
Posts: 357
Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav
Rep Power: 14
Brutal 370Z will become famous soon enough
Default

in my experience, touchless washes are ok. its just important to use a 100% cotton towel afterwards to finish the drying job. if you buy a cheaper towel, chances are its not 100% cotton and has nylon weaving. The nylon can damage your clearcoat.
__________________
Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob
Brutal 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2011, 03:06 PM   #44 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: virginia
Posts: 266
Drives: 10 Nissan 370z 4G M6
Rep Power: 15
brakedrift12 is on a distinguished road
Default

I've also used brushless car wash several times whenever I feel lazy and running out of time, and it worked fine, you just need to dry them with soft cloth afterwards cuz the air dryer is not gonna dry your car 100%, and try to wash your wheel before entering the car wash.
brakedrift12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2011, 09:22 PM   #45 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 887
Drives: BMW 335i Sport
Rep Power: 17
VCuomo will become famous soon enoughVCuomo will become famous soon enough
Default

I've been taking my Z to an automatic "handwash" (i.e., "brushless") car wash every week for over 2 years. There's no damage to my paint, no staining on my rims.

Some of you guys worry too much...
VCuomo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Car Wash Ty Weezy Nismo 370Z 18 06-13-2012 04:54 PM
Gtr wash 370zproject The Lounge (Off Topic) 21 11-14-2010 02:14 AM
Brushless Car Wash: Against Morals? lovethe370z Nissan 370Z General Discussions 47 03-26-2010 12:55 PM
40A - First wash adalsky Member's 370Z Gallery 14 03-15-2010 02:36 AM
How often do you wash your Z? Mhaddy Canada 19 09-27-2009 12:28 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2