Do Not USE!!!

V8Killer · 02-26-2011, 11:44 AM

Okay so a while back I used Turtle Wax ICE All Wheel and Tire Cleaner. Do not use this product. I used it on my 19" Ray Wheels and I noticed it left this cloudy look to the rims. Then later I started to see these black marks on my rims. Some blotches and some long streaks. Even in the areas of the lug nuts. It was smooth to touch so it wasn't road rash or some fresh road stuck to the rim. So I took it to Nissan and after a few weeks talking to the factory rep. and sending photos off to Nissan HQ it was determined to be a chemical burn and not a factory defect so in turn Nissan was going to do nothing about it. Here is a link to the product.
Turtle Wax - ICE All Wheel & Tire Cleaner
I am debating on chroming the wheels or powder coating.

Xan · 02-26-2011, 12:09 PM

First never use anything by Turtle Wax.

Second send them a damage feedback, I heard they have owned up to damage by their products before. Turtle Wax - Contact Us

Third go to detailersdomain and pick up some Sonax FE for future use. (use the forum discount)

Fourth depending on how much the damage is, pick up some polishes and a powerball and start polishing... (hopefully the damage isn't bad enough that you have to wet sand, because that's a real pain on wheels)

Nikon FM · 02-26-2011, 12:22 PM

The OEM wheels are painted. If you have black showing through that is the underlying coat. I know because I had road rash and used some 4000 grit sand paper……more black appeared after the sanding.

Better to paint or powder coat and go for that new wheel look

TreeSemdyZee · 02-26-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan

First never use anything by Turtle Wax.

Second send them a damage feedback, I heard they have owned up to damage by their products before. Turtle Wax - Contact Us

Third go to detailersdomain and pick up some Sonax FE for future use. (use the forum discount)

Fourth depending on how much the damage is, pick up some polishes and a powerball and start polishing... (hopefully the damage isn't bad enough that you have to wet sand, because that's a real pain on wheels)

+1 to that. Major crap products. Always have been.
Similar to Memorex. Good marketing, crap products.

Nele22 · 02-26-2011, 01:53 PM

Interesting. I have been using ICE on my Roush 227r, vette and 370z for quite a while with no issues at all.

370Zsteve · 02-26-2011, 02:23 PM

I've been using Turtle Wax Cleaner Wax on my Benz for years. No issues. Just sayin'.

Trips · 02-26-2011, 02:35 PM

The issue should relate to the wheels only imo. The wheels are painted and people don't think they are by the finish so using cleaners ruin them and need to be refinished. Like Nikon FM stated. I personally just use a soft sponge

Junkman2008 · 02-27-2011, 01:39 AM

This is a common issue with some OTC products. One that I use to use, Eagle 1 Wheel Cleaner was excellent at cleaning wheels. It would remove every drop of dirt, brake dust, you name it. The only problem was, it ate the chrome off my wheels. I know better now.

Some of these OTC products use some seriously aggressive chemicals in their products to clean effectively. The only problem is that your high quality equipment doesn't always like being treated with those kinds of chemicals. You have to be careful with what you use on your paint and wheels. All that glitters is not gold.

kenchan · 02-27-2011, 10:16 AM

i stay away from turtlewax and armorall. they do more damage than good.

02-26-2011, 11:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
V8Killer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 1,127 Drives: It Hard Till It Pops Rep Power: 16	Do Not USE!!! Okay so a while back I used Turtle Wax ICE All Wheel and Tire Cleaner. Do not use this product. I used it on my 19" Ray Wheels and I noticed it left this cloudy look to the rims. Then later I started to see these black marks on my rims. Some blotches and some long streaks. Even in the areas of the lug nuts. It was smooth to touch so it wasn't road rash or some fresh road stuck to the rim. So I took it to Nissan and after a few weeks talking to the factory rep. and sending photos off to Nissan HQ it was determined to be a chemical burn and not a factory defect so in turn Nissan was going to do nothing about it. Here is a link to the product. Turtle Wax - ICE All Wheel & Tire Cleaner I am debating on chroming the wheels or powder coating.

02-26-2011, 12:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Xan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MA Posts:99999999999999 Posts: 3,301 Drives: 370Z 40th Aniversary Rep Power: 24	First never use anything by Turtle Wax. Second send them a damage feedback, I heard they have owned up to damage by their products before. Turtle Wax - Contact Us Third go to detailersdomain and pick up some Sonax FE for future use. (use the forum discount) Fourth depending on how much the damage is, pick up some polishes and a powerball and start polishing... (hopefully the damage isn't bad enough that you have to wet sand, because that's a real pain on wheels) __________________

02-26-2011, 12:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nikon FM Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Snoqualmie WA Posts: 973 Drives: 03 996TT Porsche Rep Power: 606	The OEM wheels are painted. If you have black showing through that is the underlying coat. I know because I had road rash and used some 4000 grit sand paper……more black appeared after the sanding. Better to paint or powder coat and go for that new wheel look __________________ Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"

02-26-2011, 02:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	I've been using Turtle Wax Cleaner Wax on my Benz for years. No issues. Just sayin'. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

02-26-2011, 02:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,732 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	The issue should relate to the wheels only imo. The wheels are painted and people don't think they are by the finish so using cleaners ruin them and need to be refinished. Like Nikon FM stated. I personally just use a soft sponge __________________

02-26-2011, 01:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nele22 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ashland Posts: 76 Drives: 2009 touring Rep Power: 14	Interesting. I have been using ICE on my Roush 227r, vette and 370z for quite a while with no issues at all.

02-27-2011, 01:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Junkman2008 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,048 Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe Rep Power: 10259	This is a common issue with some OTC products. One that I use to use, Eagle 1 Wheel Cleaner was excellent at cleaning wheels. It would remove every drop of dirt, brake dust, you name it. The only problem was, it ate the chrome off my wheels. I know better now. Some of these OTC products use some seriously aggressive chemicals in their products to clean effectively. The only problem is that your high quality equipment doesn't always like being treated with those kinds of chemicals. You have to be careful with what you use on your paint and wheels. All that glitters is not gold. __________________ "Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."

02-27-2011, 10:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i stay away from turtlewax and armorall. they do more damage than good.