First wash a DISASTER. Please help...

Junkman2008 · 06-08-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gmr19

Junkman, what are your thoughts on Optimum No Rinse? Seems too good to be true to not have to rinse the vehicle before and after washing. Apparently, the polymer technology is supposed to encapsulate dirt particles to prevent scratching.

gmr19 · 06-08-2011, 07:52 PM

Lol

Junkman2008 · 06-08-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gmr19

Lol

Hey, you asked!

Methodical4u · 06-16-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

It's more like that's where any quality microfiber towel is being made today, if not in the USA (to which I don't know of any). The only difference is that if they were made in the USA, they'd cost more.

Here's the deal Dad. You can keep using those cheap, made in China towels (if that's what you're using) and anyone who doesn't have a clue wouldn't blame you. Or, you can believe me when I say that the Korean made towels are of superior quality compared to the China made towels. You should know that I speak the truth from the many repair threads and videos that I have done. I have proven my knowledge level through both. There is also one other thing you can do. You can buy the towels from Adam's and feel them side by side with those cheap ones for yourself. Then YOU can be the judge. If what I say isn't true, send them back for 110% of your money back. That's right, Adam will pay you to unplug yourself from the Matrix. You don't have to take my word. If what I say is NOT true, repost in this thread and call me a bold faced lie. I will not criticize or respond negatively in any way. That's how confident I am.

There it is. Are you up for the challenge or do you want to take my word instead?

This is great news! My WW towel is also made in Korea!!!

I guess my towels are superior as well!

didymus · 06-18-2011, 06:13 PM

Lol that helicopter is sweet

Junkman2008 · 06-18-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by didymus

Lol that helicopter is sweet

And fun too, once you figure out how to fly one!

Super Tanooki · 06-23-2011, 06:56 PM

A lot of great info has come of this thread - thanks to everyone for the input. I do have one more question for you all though:

I live in Vegas. It's hot out, obviously.

Finding the right time to wash the car myself - which I now thoroughly enjoy - can be tough. My point: I wash it less now than when it was cooler out. I have found, however, that the car stays remarkably clean for MUCH longer than my cars ever did in London (moved to LV a year ago). I guess due to less vegetation, cleaner streets and air, and far fewer insects.

BUT there is a lot of dust in the air and I find that after a week or two, while the paint remains remarkably clean, a thin layer of light but visible dust surfaces the car.

It annoys me because it almost feels like a full clean isn't necessary. And I've seen several people here keep huge dusters in their garage to buff over the car. I DON'T want to do that - the dusters look black and dirty. But I had a similar intention...

My question is: Do you think it's okay to use a clean dry microfiber towel? So, grabbing two adjacent corners of the towel, you just sheet the cloth over the paint - adding no extra force than the weight of the material itself - to gently sheet the dust/pollen clear without having to apply water?

I don't want to damage my paint. I will wash it if you all think it's a terrible idea, but I tried it on the rear hatch and I can't see any problem. If this is a viable option, I'd only need to clean my car roughly once a month, and my thoughts are the reduced handling of the paint will reduce the overall damage that occurs due to the washing process.

Thoughts?

Junkman2008 · 06-23-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Tanooki

...Thoughts?

Yea. These videos were made for you. Watch and learn. A tool can be a good or bad thing, depending on how you use it.

Methodical4u · 06-24-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Tanooki

A lot of great info has come of this thread - thanks to everyone for the input. I do have one more question for you all though:

I live in Vegas. It's hot out, obviously.

Finding the right time to wash the car myself - which I now thoroughly enjoy - can be tough. My point: I wash it less now than when it was cooler out. I have found, however, that the car stays remarkably clean for MUCH longer than my cars ever did in London (moved to LV a year ago). I guess due to less vegetation, cleaner streets and air, and far fewer insects.

BUT there is a lot of dust in the air and I find that after a week or two, while the paint remains remarkably clean, a thin layer of light but visible dust surfaces the car.

It annoys me because it almost feels like a full clean isn't necessary. And I've seen several people here keep huge dusters in their garage to buff over the car. I DON'T want to do that - the dusters look black and dirty. But I had a similar intention...

My question is: Do you think it's okay to use a clean dry microfiber towel? So, grabbing two adjacent corners of the towel, you just sheet the cloth over the paint - adding no extra force than the weight of the material itself - to gently sheet the dust/pollen clear without having to apply water?

I don't want to damage my paint. I will wash it if you all think it's a terrible idea, but I tried it on the rear hatch and I can't see any problem. If this is a viable option, I'd only need to clean my car roughly once a month, and my thoughts are the reduced handling of the paint will reduce the overall damage that occurs due to the washing process.

Thoughts?

ANY time that you touch the paint with anything, no matter how soft, it will always have at the very least microscopic marring (scratching). If there is dust on the car, that means dirt... if you wipe it with anything, you will get scratches and overtime your paint will dull and it will need to be polished. It's likely always better to wash the car... rinsing it very throughly before washing, using very soft products and then using an electric blower. A good coat of sealant, I would recommend Finish Kare 1000p because of where you are and the Finish Kare's high temp formula (it's good up to 250 degrees)... after that the blower will make it much easier to get all of the water off.

Super Tanooki · 06-24-2011, 02:40 AM

So the simple answer: No, it's not a good idea. Thanks Methodical!

Is Finish Kare something you put on after washing before drying? Also, do you ever use touch-less car washes? Under the principles of 'touch = inevitable damage', they sound like a good idea. I was thinking of trying one tomorrow.

Methodical4u · 06-24-2011, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Tanooki

Thanks Methodical!

no problem friend

Super Tanooki · 06-24-2011, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Yea. These videos were made for you. Watch and learn. A tool can be a good or bad thing, depending on how you use it.

Hey Junkman. I watched your videos - the third one mainly. Your technique with the california duster is essentially EXACTLY what I described in my post, i.e. just glazing the fiber over the surface. So from that, I would take it that what I suggested is fine.

Junkman2008 · 06-24-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Tanooki

Hey Junkman. I watched your videos - the third one mainly. Your technique with the california duster is essentially EXACTLY what I described in my post, i.e. just glazing the fiber over the surface. So from that, I would take it that what I suggested is fine.

Using exactly what I used, in the same manner as how I use it is fine. Anything else and you are looking at scratching the paint.

This is why I show you flawless paint to start with and then destroy it with the technique that most people use. You don't have to take my word for it, all you have to do is believe your lying eyes! You see me use one technique that creates the damage, and then you see me use a technique that does not. If I knew nothing about this, at least I can see a proven technique and say to myself, "Hmmm... that way didn't scratch the car."

That would be enough for me without me trying to reinvent the wheel. As for touchless washes, I have some videos that cover that too. All you have to do is wash them.

Junkman2008 · 10-31-2011, 11:07 PM

Bump for a thread full of knowledge.

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Super Tanooki Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 217 Drives: 370Z MT Base/Spt Red Rep Power: 15	So the simple answer: No, it's not a good idea. Thanks Methodical! Is Finish Kare something you put on after washing before drying? Also, do you ever use touch-less car washes? Under the principles of 'touch = inevitable damage', they sound like a good idea. I was thinking of trying one tomorrow. Last edited by Super Tanooki; 06-24-2011 at 02:44 AM.

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Super Tanooki Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 217 Drives: 370Z MT Base/Spt Red Rep Power: 15	A lot of great info has come of this thread - thanks to everyone for the input. I do have one more question for you all though: I live in Vegas. It's hot out, obviously. Finding the right time to wash the car myself - which I now thoroughly enjoy - can be tough. My point: I wash it less now than when it was cooler out. I have found, however, that the car stays remarkably clean for MUCH longer than my cars ever did in London (moved to LV a year ago). I guess due to less vegetation, cleaner streets and air, and far fewer insects. BUT there is a lot of dust in the air and I find that after a week or two, while the paint remains remarkably clean, a thin layer of light but visible dust surfaces the car. It annoys me because it almost feels like a full clean isn't necessary. And I've seen several people here keep huge dusters in their garage to buff over the car. I DON'T want to do that - the dusters look black and dirty. But I had a similar intention... My question is: Do you think it's okay to use a clean dry microfiber towel? So, grabbing two adjacent corners of the towel, you just sheet the cloth over the paint - adding no extra force than the weight of the material itself - to gently sheet the dust/pollen clear without having to apply water? I don't want to damage my paint. I will wash it if you all think it's a terrible idea, but I tried it on the rear hatch and I can't see any problem. If this is a viable option, I'd only need to clean my car roughly once a month, and my thoughts are the reduced handling of the paint will reduce the overall damage that occurs due to the washing process. Thoughts?