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Osiris 11-26-2010 09:15 AM

Help!!!
 
I tried searching for this, but all i can find is help with water marks. I have a magnetic black z and while at family's for thanksgiving, i attempted to do a little detailing.

The nose of my car has some spots that appear to be slight rough areas or possibly scratches? in the clear coat. So, i used what was available that my father had in his garage. I used Toyo Guard Sealant Cleaner on one of these small spots. What resulted is what looks like a cloudy area on the spot i put it on...and it won't come off no matter how much i try to buff it out.

How do i get rid of it? What product will help me? Should i try one of those color restoring products? If so which one?

It just seems the Toyo Guard reacted to the clear coat in some way. I was going to take a pic, but the camera can't seem to see it because, although it is a cloudy spot, it is still a reflective surface. But with they eye, some you either see it a tiny bit, and other angles it's like a huge spot.

DetailAddict 11-26-2010 11:24 AM

slight rough spot? try clay bar first... after that try some other polishes

Osiris 11-26-2010 11:46 AM

as you can tell, i'm not a detailing expert....will clay bar correct the problem i created? Also, i thought clay bar was to remove hard to remove dirt?

Cmike2780 11-26-2010 11:51 AM

Most likely it created small scratches to your paint like a swirl and haze remover would. What you need is a fine polish to clear it back up again. I use the stuff from Adams, but other quality brands will work just as well. Clay bar will only remove any contaminants, so I would do that first anyways.

Osiris 11-26-2010 12:02 PM

and a polish is different than a wax yea? So like, Adams Fine Polish (if there is such a thing)?

Xan 11-26-2010 12:04 PM

Most likely you hazed the paint, just need to polish/buff it back to a shine.

Just to be sure, first get some water with a lot of dishwasher soap and clean it.
It might just be residue....

Osiris 11-26-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 822625)
Most likely you hazed the paint, just need to polish/buff it back to a shine.

Just to be sure, first get some water with a lot of dishwasher soap and clean it.
It might just be residue....

well, all i know is buffing it by hand has absolutely no effect. its almost like the haze is under the clear coat, but really not.

Junkman2008 11-26-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 822629)
well, all i know is buffing it by hand has absolutely no effect. its almost like the haze is under the clear coat, but really not.

Here you go man. You need to first understand what these products do to your paint before you go buying stuff and trying to fix it yourself. These videos explain the simple process of paint repair. That stuff you used has dulled the paint and now you need to undo the damage that stuff has done. It has a purpose, you just used it at the wrong time and for the wrong application. After watching those videos, you will be a lot better informed on how to fix your problem.

Doing it by hand is for the birds. You need to invest in a PC. These videos will explain to you the safety in doing so. It's not as complicated as you think it is when you are armed with the right information.

Osiris 11-27-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 822811)
Here you go man. You need to first understand what these products do to your paint before you go buying stuff and trying to fix it yourself. These videos explain the simple process of paint repair. That stuff you used has dulled the paint and now you need to undo the damage that stuff has done. It has a purpose, you just used it at the wrong time and for the wrong application. After watching those videos, you will be a lot better informed on how to fix your problem.

Doing it by hand is for the birds. You need to invest in a PC. These videos will explain to you the safety in doing so. It's not as complicated as you think it is when you are armed with the right information.

I'm all for investing in a PC, but what you're telling me is i'm screwed until i do? So to fix this spot, i gotta shell out the $$ for the PC and all the products? No emergency manual fix? It is xmas and all...money is kinda tight.

Xan 11-27-2010 12:51 PM

If you get some good polish there is no need for a pc.
Sure if you do whole cars and do it often, but to fix this one spot a little elbow grease goes a long way.

Junkman2008 11-27-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 823773)
I'm all for investing in a PC, but what you're telling me is i'm screwed until i do? So to fix this spot, i gotta shell out the $$ for the PC and all the products? No emergency manual fix? It is xmas and all...money is kinda tight.

You tried it by hand and found out how hard it is. You can do it by hand but it takes a lot of work. If you want it fixed right now, pay a professional to do it.

Osiris 11-27-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 823813)
If you get some good polish there is no need for a pc.
Sure if you do whole cars and do it often, but to fix this one spot a little elbow grease goes a long way.

What polish would you recommend for this fix attempt? If it doesn't work, than i'll do as junkman suggests and pay for a professional. Thanks.

Xan 11-27-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 823846)
What polish would you recommend for this fix attempt? If it doesn't work, than i'll do as junkman suggests and pay for a professional. Thanks.

Hard to judge without seeing it, but if the damage is light enough I would use Meguiar's M205, if that doesn't get it out, you could go a little heavier and use some M105, which you would have to follow up with M205.

Junkman2008 11-27-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 823878)
Hard to judge without seeing it, but if the damage is light enough I would use Meguiar's M205, if that doesn't get it out, you could go a little heavier and use some M105, which you would have to follow up with M205.

Those polishes are not made for hand use and thus, will not perform as they are designed. They both have diminishing abrasive which is why you need to use them on a polisher in order for them to work as they are designed. They are, however, excellent polishes for the polisher.

Xan 11-27-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 823900)
Those polishes are not made for hand use and thus, will not perform as they are designed. They both have diminishing abrasive which is why you need to use them on a polisher in order for them to work as they are designed. They are, however, excellent polishes for the polisher.

Unlike most polishes, M105 and M205 work great by hand because it doesn't break down as fast as regular machine polishes. And I have used this combo by hand with great results.. (and with me plenty of other people)


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