Haze with Quick Detailer

Mike K · 10-28-2010, 03:07 PM

There are 3 reasons why the Meguiar's QD or their Ultimate QD haze or anyone's detailer for that matter . 1) high humidity. 2) The wax/ polish needs to be done again (u can tell if this if the microfiber doesn't slide on the paint easily) 3) you need to use clay the surface ... it's microsopically contaminated. (very very common) Also ... you don't spray the detailer on the towel ... you spray it on a cool reasonably clean surface.

Jeffblue · 10-28-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

Id say you either used too much spray or the surface was still wet when applied. I've had that issue before.

i noticed it on either a totally dry surface/or on a semi moist surface/towel

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

I would not have done anything to that clear bra but what the installer recommended. I would not use anything on that clear bra but what the installer recommended. Other than washing and drying it, that would be my suggestion. It is not paint so you can't treat it like paint. The more you do to it, the worse it is for it.

Make sure that you use painters tape to mask off the edges of it. You do not want the polisher rubbing up against the lines of it.

Thanks for the tips. i just called the installer and i'm going to see what to do as far as the areas covered by the clear bra.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i get the haze when it's kinda humid out. especially when colder and humid is the worst.

i use mostly Griot's SpeedShine and at times i would take a dry MF detailing towel and do a full wipe down at the very end of the QD session.

on a dry day i dont need to do this at all.

same with polymer based QD's like Prima Slick.

i've seen a lot of people spray detail spray as they dry the car off, and i'm not sure what it is, but it does seem to come out better when i dry off the car and spray some. is it necessary or is it overkill and part of the problem?

AdamsPolishes · 10-28-2010, 06:55 PM

I can't speak to all products as they will vary, but with our Detail Spray theres a good amount of benefit to be had by drying with it. Most sprays should offer you these benefits, but there are some truly horrible products out there on the market so not all of them.

Its hydrophobic - the chemicals in our Detail Spray don't mix easily with water... spraying it as you dry will cause the water to roll away as you spray, making drying a little easier.
Surface lubrication - anytime you touch your finish, even with a high quality drying towel, you want to add some lubrication to the surface. It'll help minimize the chances of swirls being introduced while you dry. Also should a rogue bit of dust/grit get onto the finish either due to a breeze or some suspended in a drip of water coming out of a door handle the detailer will help lubricate that so its safe for removal.
Shine - it doesn't leave as much gloss behind as when its used straight, but our product has a gloss enhancer in it. The portion that is deposited on the finish will give you a small amount more gloss.

kenchan · 11-01-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i've seen a lot of people spray detail spray as they dry the car off, and i'm not sure what it is, but it does seem to come out better when i dry off the car and spray some. is it necessary or is it overkill and part of the problem?

the stuff i use is called Prima Hydro. it's a spray as you wipe sealant.

on my hobby cars i blot dry so i dont use this stuff, but for my dd's i use it as it has good lubricity (minimizes swirls) and nice protection for the paint. it's a very convenient product and can be had from Phil over at detailersdomain.

on a colder humid day i get some haze due to light condensation on the panels. that quickly wipes off if i run a dry MF detailing towel at the very end. i think you'll like the product. get a gallon.

Jeffblue · 11-01-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

the stuff i use is called Prima Hydro. it's a spray as you wipe sealant.

on my hobby cars i blot dry so i dont use this stuff, but for my dd's i use it as it has good lubricity (minimizes swirls) and nice protection for the paint. it's a very convenient product and can be had from Phil over at detailersdomain.

on a colder humid day i get some haze due to light condensation on the panels. that quickly wipes off if i run a dry MF detailing towel at the very end. i think you'll like the product. get a gallon.

i will check it out. i need to restock my detailing products anyway.

kenchan · 11-01-2010, 05:23 PM

yah, his online store is very modern with auto triggering tracking numbers and stuff which makes it very ideal.

if you are planning to order liquids do it soon cause it's going to get into sub-freezing temps and you dont want UPS leaving out liquids on the porch. hydro is polymer so it's probably okay, but especially natural wax based products. once it freezes chances are the mix will separate and never be the same.

Jeffblue · 11-01-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, his online store is very modern with auto triggering tracking numbers and stuff which makes it very ideal.

if you are planning to order liquids do it soon cause it's going to get into sub-freezing temps and you dont want UPS leaving out liquids on the porch. hydro is polymer so it's probably okay, but especially natural wax based products. once it freezes chances are the mix will separate and never be the same.

Good to know, thanks

BTW what style's of music do you play/what instruments?

kenchan · 11-01-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

Good to know, thanks

BTW what style's of music do you play/what instruments?

i play mostly comtemporary jazz/new age. i play keyboards, mainly electric piano's and compose/improvise.

just for fun though.

Jeffblue · 11-01-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i play mostly comtemporary jazz/new age. i play keyboards, mainly electric piano's and compose/improvise.

just for fun though.

thats cool. i play guitar. i play mostly metal and most of what i write winds up sounding like video game music (i compose in midi, so that doesn't help) but its all just for fun for me as well.

Jquad · 11-02-2010, 01:34 AM

Synthetic Detailer by CG bro Can't g0 wrong

And it smell's so go0d

Junkman2008 · 11-03-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i play mostly comtemporary jazz/new age. i play keyboards, mainly electric piano's and compose/improvise.

just for fun though.

You Tube videos? I played all the woodwinds except for flute. Majored on alto sax and minored on piano in college. I listen to the same exact style of music. Big Pat Metheny fan.

Gunzero · 11-03-2010, 12:37 PM

The turtle wax ice quick detailer is so easy... try it! also use the quick wax if you have no time to wax.

10-28-2010, 03:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mike K Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: O.C. Calif. Posts: 2 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	about that hazing detailer. There are 3 reasons why the Meguiar's QD or their Ultimate QD haze or anyone's detailer for that matter . 1) high humidity. 2) The wax/ polish needs to be done again (u can tell if this if the microfiber doesn't slide on the paint easily) 3) you need to use clay the surface ... it's microsopically contaminated. (very very common) Also ... you don't spray the detailer on the towel ... you spray it on a cool reasonably clean surface.

10-28-2010, 06:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
AdamsPolishes The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 724 Drives: 2009 Avalanche Rep Power: 16	I can't speak to all products as they will vary, but with our Detail Spray theres a good amount of benefit to be had by drying with it. Most sprays should offer you these benefits, but there are some truly horrible products out there on the market so not all of them. Its hydrophobic - the chemicals in our Detail Spray don't mix easily with water... spraying it as you dry will cause the water to roll away as you spray, making drying a little easier. Surface lubrication - anytime you touch your finish, even with a high quality drying towel, you want to add some lubrication to the surface. It'll help minimize the chances of swirls being introduced while you dry. Also should a rogue bit of dust/grit get onto the finish either due to a breeze or some suspended in a drip of water coming out of a door handle the detailer will help lubricate that so its safe for removal. Shine - it doesn't leave as much gloss behind as when its used straight, but our product has a gloss enhancer in it. The portion that is deposited on the finish will give you a small amount more gloss. __________________ Use the code NISSANZ* at checkout to save 10% off your next order at www.AdamsPolishes.com*

11-02-2010, 01:34 AM	#25 (permalink)
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11-03-2010, 12:37 PM	#27 (permalink)
Gunzero Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 889 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 259	The turtle wax ice quick detailer is so easy... try it! also use the quick wax if you have no time to wax. __________________

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, his online store is very modern with auto triggering tracking numbers and stuff which makes it very ideal. if you are planning to order liquids do it soon cause it's going to get into sub-freezing temps and you dont want UPS leaving out liquids on the porch. hydro is polymer so it's probably okay, but especially natural wax based products. once it freezes chances are the mix will separate and never be the same.