What's the difference between quick detailer and waterless carwash - Adams products.

atx370z

Im browsing Adams Polishing site and the shopping cart is filling up quick. One thing i want to know, is whats the difference between the quick detailer and the waterless carwash. The description of both products is basically the same.

I have a black 370z and want something i can use to touch the car up every few days even when its really dusty without harming the paint. I've already tried to do this once with a microfiber towel and some ICE detail spray.... yeah swirl marks where IMMEDIATELY noticeable after that.

Don't want to do that again! My best guess would be waterless carwash with the waffle weave towels, but just wanted to have some real world opinions from ppl who have used the products.

Thanks

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Tronchaser

Junkman explains it rather nicely... went back and actually read your question. Ha! I think the difference is the WW encapsulates the dirt better than the DS. However, if you are using the WW incorrectly (see junkman's video below), then you will end up with swirl city.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDevg-0x0jI

Cmike2780

From personal experience:

Use the Waterless Wash carefully. Too much dirt and you are guaranteed swirl marks. Regular wash is best, but this stuff does work for very light dust/pollen removal. The blue waterless wash towel works best with this. I usually finish it off with a once over using the Quick Detailer.

The Quick Detailer can help clean off dust, but any oils/sap or pollen on the car kind off gets pushed around. If you don't have too much dirt on the car, this stuff works fine especially with the Adam's microfiber towel. This stuff is best for an already clean car and leaves the surface perfect & streak free (with a clean towel).

Also, the microfiber towel makes or break any product. You won't regret buying the Adam's towels, I sure don't.

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AdamsPolishes

The nitty gritty of the differences:

Detail Spray has a medium lubricity and a gloss enhancer. This makes it OK for removing very light dust from the surface and will leave the paint slightly more glossy than when you started. It also is an ideal clay lubricant, pad primer, and can be used to aid in the removal of polishes and waxes from the surface in the event you went to thick on the application.

Waterless has a HIGH lubricity and no gloss enhancers, meaning after use the paint is not any glossier. It is far safer for removal of light dust on the surface as it encapsulates and lubricates potential 'swirl causing' dust much better. Its too slippery to be a clay lube, doesn't work well as a pad primer, and I wouldn't attempt to use it for polish removal as it just gums up.

Also Waterless is a couple of bucks cheaper so using it whenever you can conserves your detail spray for the things its best suited for. If you were only going to have ONE of the two in your collection I'd say go with the detail spray... its more versatile... but if you do a lot of detailing having both makes things a lot easier.

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bullet1

My rule of thumb has always been, that once the car has been driven, I pretty much nix any waterless method of cleaning the paint. If I have a fresh coat of wax on the car and it has done nothing but sit in the garage getting dusty, I'll sometimes use a california duster or something but that is very rarely.

kenchan

these waterless systems are great tool to have. i use another brand, but after
driving my very clean hobby car though some puddles i use waterless cleaners
on the side panels, etc. to remove the soil; followed by my favorite QD.

the main trick is to use a lot of product and saturate the area. and wipe off
with plush soft MF towel... use only the clean section of the towel.

beats washing the entire car just to clean a section of the car.

happytheman

I'm hoping that Junkman Glances over this thread so he can see how well this duster is being used! Note the well practiced technique of smashing the duster into the surface of the paint to ensure that all dirt is "properly" removed!

AdamsPolishes

Ack!

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djpathfinder

Yeah, and make sure to move that thing in circles. eeek!

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Xan

I got six letters... ONR FTW!

I do have some of the Adam's waterless wash and QD, haven't tried it yet... So can't really judge...

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1Sweet Z

Did my first wash with Adam's products. Man this stuff is good.
The DS has great lubricity and shines amazingly.

Great Stuff Dylan.
Send my thanks to Ashley on getting my order corrected and shipped.

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Junkman2008

They are two, totally different products all together. There is no comparison possible.

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mikeTO

This is semi on topic, so...has anyone else struggled with the Detailing Spray leaving streaks when used as part of the drying process after a full wash? I mist DS on each panel while the car is wet and then dry using the Adams waffle towels. I seem to get streaks every time...in particular on the hood. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the temperature still being relatively cool up here. It's +3C today (38F).

I love the products, but the streaks bug the crap out of me and really show on the Black Rose colour.

Appreciate any input. Thanks!

Junkman2008

First off, you don't have to use Detail Spray to dry the car off. The reason this practice is done is to revive water spots that have dried on the car. If you are not having that problem, you're wasting Detail Spray. Also, one would have to know the exact shape of your paint and also see your wash process to answer with any accuracy. Temperature does play in this scenario but usually it high temperatures.

If I were you, I would stop that practice unless it is necessary due to the condition that I listed above.

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mikeTO

Thanks Junkman. Appreciate the advice. The water up here can be a bit hard at times, so that's why I originally started using it. Also, since I live in a loft condo with no wash bay in the building, I'm stuck with a less than optimal washing arrangement; so wanted all the help I could get. Have to make do with a newly built coin-op place, where I still two-bucket wash with a sheepskin mitt (early in the morning while it's empty) and Adams soap, but have to rinse with their equipment. They use fresh rinse water (at least they say they do!) so I make the best of it with low pressure and dry with the Adams microfibre.

Thanks again for responding.