Paint chip is rusting

Junkman2008 · 08-25-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bullet1

If the chip is small enough that you can't get a small tipped attachment of a dremel inside of it, how on earth do you have enough room to sand? While it might be overkill, taking the few seconds to dremel out the rust in my experience is much easier than trying to work sand paper in such a small area. I've found the small tips of some of the grinding attachments worth the best in tigh areas. The sanding attachements are much too large for this type of application. But hey, I'm just a computer programmer that likes to detail.

So am I!

You want to slope off the edge of the chip, not just clean it out. This will help in the appearance of the fixed area. That's why sandpaper is your better option.

bullet1 · 08-25-2010, 02:28 PM

I'm still confused as to how you can get and agitate sand paper enough to get into a lower surface area the size of a small chip. Whether or not you want to slope off the edges or not, actually getting into the chip enough to get rust out like that with paper to me sounds like it would be terribly difficult. Especially without damaging and scuffing up the paint around it. Granted I don't work with sand paper much, but I've done a little.

kenchan · 08-25-2010, 03:00 PM

you just fold the sandpaper and use the edge to get into the chip.

junkman might be right about the average joe...

Nitex · 08-25-2010, 03:48 PM

^

bullet1 · 08-25-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

you just fold the sandpaper and use the edge to get into the chip.

junkman might be right about the average joe...

Right and getting into every edge of the chip to me would be a huge pain rather than taking a small tip on the dremel and taking out the rust in no time. Oh well, more than one way to skin a cat. Either way you have to be careful not to touch the undamaged paint.

Nitex · 08-25-2010, 04:10 PM

^^ i dont doubt your way works great for you bullet! I just thought kenchans response was funny

kenchan · 08-25-2010, 04:28 PM

bullet1- im just kidding around.

completely agree that there are other ways than using a frikken 2000grit on rust to remove it in one direction non-recipricating movements otherwise the door panels start falling off or something.

do wat is most comfortable for you.

Junkman2008 · 08-25-2010, 07:22 PM

Kenchan's got jokes!

Bullet, I do not try and avoid the area that surround the chip, I include that area into the repair. I think they call it feathering. That way, it doesn't look like a spot repair, which helps hide the repair all together. Make sense now?

kenchan · 08-25-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Kenchan's got jokes!

Bullet, I do not try and avoid the area that surround the chip, I include that area into the repair. I think they call it feathering. That way, it doesn't look like a spot repair, which helps hide the repair all together. Make sense now?

Ok, yah, now makes sense to me. If I'm going to be sanding the surrounding paint I would definitely NOT use 400grit. I would sand the rust off with 400, but then take 1500-2000 at the edge of the rust into the surrounding paint to level it off. But now you're talking professional level repair something a regular joe won't be able to tackle.

sinceday1 · 08-25-2010, 08:44 PM

Arg!! I found a couple spots like this (not rusted this bad but.. I see orange tint forming!)

I guess I'm going to be picking up 2000grit sandpaper tomorrow...

I got a couple spots under wheel well.. stupid stock tires picking up bunch of crap from the road!!

Question from Avg JOE: Would you recommend against it if I was to simply paint over the troubled spots?

kenchan · 08-25-2010, 10:10 PM

average joe to average joe - even if you're okay with just touching it up, you still want to remove the cancer (rust) before you paint over it.

Junkman2008 · 08-26-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sinceday1

Arg!! I found a couple spots like this (not rusted this bad but.. I see orange tint forming!)

I guess I'm going to be picking up 2000grit sandpaper tomorrow...

I got a couple spots under wheel well.. stupid stock tires picking up bunch of crap from the road!!

Question from Avg JOE: Would you recommend against it if I was to simply paint over the troubled spots?

For the average Joe, Dr. Colorchip or the Lankga system! Don't make it harder than it is. These outfits have come up with a way to handle paint chips so that no sandpaper is involved. That is always a safer option.

mikerogowski · 09-08-2010, 09:08 PM

hey guys, i have a little chip on my door. where can i get some good touch up paint? (2009 370z yellow)
-thanks, mike

Junkman2008 · 09-09-2010, 08:32 AM

Dealership? They can match your car's paint by the paint code.

kenchan · 09-09-2010, 02:23 PM

never mind...

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sinceday1 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 17	Arg!! I found a couple spots like this (not rusted this bad but.. I see orange tint forming!) I guess I'm going to be picking up 2000grit sandpaper tomorrow... I got a couple spots under wheel well.. stupid stock tires picking up bunch of crap from the road!! Question from Avg JOE: Would you recommend against it if I was to simply paint over the troubled spots? Last edited by sinceday1; 08-25-2010 at 08:47 PM.

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08-25-2010, 02:28 PM	#32 (permalink)
bullet1 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 101 Drives: 370Z Black - Touring Rep Power: 15	I'm still confused as to how you can get and agitate sand paper enough to get into a lower surface area the size of a small chip. Whether or not you want to slope off the edges or not, actually getting into the chip enough to get rust out like that with paper to me sounds like it would be terribly difficult. Especially without damaging and scuffing up the paint around it. Granted I don't work with sand paper much, but I've done a little.

08-25-2010, 03:00 PM	#33 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	you just fold the sandpaper and use the edge to get into the chip. junkman might be right about the average joe...

08-25-2010, 04:28 PM	#37 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	bullet1- im just kidding around. completely agree that there are other ways than using a frikken 2000grit on rust to remove it in one direction non-recipricating movements otherwise the door panels start falling off or something. do wat is most comfortable for you.

08-25-2010, 10:10 PM	#41 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	average joe to average joe - even if you're okay with just touching it up, you still want to remove the cancer (rust) before you paint over it.

09-08-2010, 09:08 PM	#43 (permalink)
mikerogowski Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11 Drives: 2009 370z M6 Yellow Rep Power: 15	hey guys, i have a little chip on my door. where can i get some good touch up paint? (2009 370z yellow) -thanks, mike

09-09-2010, 02:23 PM	#45 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	never mind...

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