Live, Learn, NEVER use ICE!!!

bullet1 · 08-04-2010, 02:31 PM

I would guess that the Adam's Detail spray is on par with Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Detail spray which is $9.99 at most places I've seen. So for quality products, they are all more than $5.

StealthZ · 08-04-2010, 03:49 PM

Try Optimum quick detailer. Optimum has great products and quality. Along with a good Microfiber towel (not usually bought at autozone etc...) Then try Optimum spray wax, as it very easy to use and great protection/shine. It doesn't stain trim and is easily wiped off.

HATED1 · 08-04-2010, 05:47 PM

hello, i have been threw the same delima as you, i tried searching and found many different opinions, i tried the Meg NXT stuff on my red 370z and it was good, but i wanted something with a lot more gloss and a protectant shield so i went onto the Zaino site and purchased the "show car kit" that runs for about $80. I was very impressed with it and will continue to use it, you should try it, real easy to put on and take off. It gives it that deep red look that i like, however it did not remove or hide all the dealer scratches that were put on with the prewash before delivery. I am impressed with it though, and feel confident that this Zaino stuff will protect the cars finish.

optiontrader · 08-04-2010, 09:10 PM

I used Meguiar's NXT with great results on my G35. In between selling that car and buying my Z, I tried out TW Ice on my wife's Murano and loved it. It almost makes it TOO easy to wax a car - it's almost like spreading Crisco on your car. Wait 30min, then come back and wipe (literally "wipe", no need to "buff") it off. Never streaked, so I'm not sure what OP did to cause streaking.

The water beads up nicely so there's a protective layer that remains on the car - my #1 criteria for wax. The shine (#2), I admit, doesn't seem as deep as Meguiar's, and the smoothness of Ice is about 90% what I got with NXT. But the time and effort savings won me over. Call me lazy...

mjch3n · 08-04-2010, 09:39 PM

I've had poor experiences with Turtle Waxes ICE line as well. I purchased the ICE polish paste, which never yielded good results, and the ICE clay kit which yielded extremely poor results because the clay is far too hard for the paint. With even a gentle motion and plenty of lubricant (the ICE detailer or Meguiar's Quik Detailer), it would leave engraved back and forth motion scratches. I've had much better results with Meguiar's Gold Class products, and even the Mother clay kit is much, much softer for an OTC clay kit. The ICE liquid clay is decent, for what it is. But it can only be applied after a wash (while car still wet). The only other thing that hasn't been terrible is the ICE tire shine, which gives a decent shine (not greasy in my opinion).

menzzer37 · 08-05-2010, 07:13 AM

I've got some tech wax lying around. I'll go to that. I'm guessing my problem with ICE was I didn't let it sit long enough? My neighbor uses it on his corvette and he claims he doesn't even wipe it down.

StealthZ · 08-05-2010, 09:36 AM

Try Meg's NXT 2.0 as wel. good stuff and that is something you can actually pick up at Autozone etc... seen good results from that stuff and cheap.

TreeSemdyZee · 08-05-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bullet1

Wow, everyone pimps Adam's stuff. Not saying it is bad, but there are other products out there that are good. I use Meguiar's Mirror Glaze polishes and sealants along with High Tech Wax 2.0 and a bunch of other products. One great place I have purchased from online is Auto Detailing Solutions -- Meguiar's Car Wax, Auto Polish & Detailing Supplies Store. Always give me great service and very quick shipping. I'm sure the Adams stuff is good, just throwing out other options.

Most of the Mirror Glaze stuff from Meguiar's is not available in stores so you'd have to buy it online.

There are actually Mirror Glaze stores also. At least there's one in Louisville.

Spec Jay · 08-05-2010, 08:04 PM

I use NXT 2.0 for the regular wax, turtle wax ice detail spray inbetween. i only use it because it doesnt streak like normal detail sprays

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Originally Posted by Nikon FM

The second one needs to be wiped off when wet and then quickly followed by a light touch shine (microfiber). If the stuff dries it gets kind of messy. I use it over the top of Carnuba based waxes and it works really well as a second layer.

Carnuba is a no-no for clearbras bruce!

menzzer37 · 08-05-2010, 09:34 PM

I'm buying the NXT 2.0. Since they are both synthetics, do I need to strip or can I just wax over?

Nikon FM · 08-05-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spec Jay

I use NXT 2.0 for the regular wax, turtle wax ice detail spray inbetween. i only use it because it doesnt streak like normal detail sprays

Carnuba is a no-no for clearbras bruce!

I don't use the Carnuba products on the clear bra areas but I use the synthetic stuff there. Thanks for the heads up! You probably noticed less shine coming from the nose of my car compared to the doors?

Spec Jay · 08-05-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikon FM

I don't use the Carnuba products on the clear bra areas but I use the synthetic stuff there. Thanks for the heads up! You probably noticed less shine coming from the nose of my car compared to the doors?

i might've

Junkman2008 · 08-21-2010, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet1

Wow, everyone pimps Adam's stuff. Not saying it is bad, but there are other products out there that are good.

They are a supporting vendor here. Nothing like supporting the guys who help keep the lights on, especially when they have a quality product that works as advertised with a 110% satisfaction guarantee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet1

I would guess that the Adam's Detail spray is on par with Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Detail spray which is $9.99 at most places I've seen. So for quality products, they are all more than $5.

No so. Adam's keeps a bottle of The Meguiar's quick detailer at the shows and allows people try them both, side by side. The Meguiar's quick detailer is one of the many reasons that the Adam's detail spray sells so well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HATED1

hello, i have been threw the same delima as you, i tried searching and found many different opinions, i tried the Meg NXT stuff on my red 370z and it was good, but i wanted something with a lot more gloss and a protectant shield so i went onto the Zaino site and purchased the "show car kit" that runs for about $80. I was very impressed with it and will continue to use it, you should try it, real easy to put on and take off. It gives it that deep red look that i like, however it did not remove or hide all the dealer scratches that were put on with the prewash before delivery. I am impressed with it though, and feel confident that this Zaino stuff will protect the cars finish.

Quality product, quality results. There truly is a difference from the OTC stuff and the professional grade stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

There are actually Mirror Glaze stores also. At least there's one in Louisville.

Yes there is! That's where I get a lot of stuff like sandpaper, sanding blocks, detail brushes, pads and back plates for my rotary, etc...

kenchan · 08-25-2010, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman2008

No so. Adam's keeps a bottle of The Meguiar's quick detailer at the shows and allows people try them both, side by side. The Meguiar's quick detailer is one of the many reasons that the Adam's detail spray sells so well.

yah, mequiar's QD

is like water compared to quality QD's. i use it for claying though... it's pretty effective for that.

i use mostly Griot's and Prima in my detailing cart.

i might have to try some of Adam's stuff later on...but still have gallons of each to consume first.

gaveup · 09-03-2010, 01:20 PM

Turtle wax anything is garbage. Meguiars professional line products are great, but most of the over the counter stuff is not so good. NXT is a good wax, but it still has some cleaning properties, which I don't particularly like.

As far as wax goes, one of the easiest to take off ones I have been using on customers cars is Pinnacle Liquid Souvern ( Pinnacle Souveran Paste Carnauba Wax is Brilliant on Red- Awesome on Black! Souvern is hand poured, one container at a time, and boxed with an ). Goes on easy, comes off easy. On my own car I have been using Wolfgang Fuzion ( Wolfgang Fuzion Estate Car Wax contains real carnauba wax and paint sealant polymers to protect paint. ultimate show car wax, auto wax, paste wax, ). However, as everyone should know, wax is there pretty much to protect your paint. A proper polish is needed to achieve depth and gloss.

08-04-2010, 09:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
mjch3n Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 296 Drives: slow Rep Power: 15	I've had poor experiences with Turtle Waxes ICE line as well. I purchased the ICE polish paste, which never yielded good results, and the ICE clay kit which yielded extremely poor results because the clay is far too hard for the paint. With even a gentle motion and plenty of lubricant (the ICE detailer or Meguiar's Quik Detailer), it would leave engraved back and forth motion scratches. I've had much better results with Meguiar's Gold Class products, and even the Mother clay kit is much, much softer for an OTC clay kit. The ICE liquid clay is decent, for what it is. But it can only be applied after a wash (while car still wet). The only other thing that hasn't been terrible is the ICE tire shine, which gives a decent shine (not greasy in my opinion). __________________ Powered by Safeway Gasoline

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08-04-2010, 02:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
bullet1 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 101 Drives: 370Z Black - Touring Rep Power: 15	I would guess that the Adam's Detail spray is on par with Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Detail spray which is $9.99 at most places I've seen. So for quality products, they are all more than $5.

08-04-2010, 03:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
StealthZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 356 Drives: '14 GTR Premium Rep Power: 17	Try Optimum quick detailer. Optimum has great products and quality. Along with a good Microfiber towel (not usually bought at autozone etc...) Then try Optimum spray wax, as it very easy to use and great protection/shine. It doesn't stain trim and is easily wiped off.

08-04-2010, 05:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
HATED1 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WA Posts: 504 Drives: 2010-370z-Red-6 SPD Rep Power: 17	hello, i have been threw the same delima as you, i tried searching and found many different opinions, i tried the Meg NXT stuff on my red 370z and it was good, but i wanted something with a lot more gloss and a protectant shield so i went onto the Zaino site and purchased the "show car kit" that runs for about $80. I was very impressed with it and will continue to use it, you should try it, real easy to put on and take off. It gives it that deep red look that i like, however it did not remove or hide all the dealer scratches that were put on with the prewash before delivery. I am impressed with it though, and feel confident that this Zaino stuff will protect the cars finish.

08-04-2010, 09:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 16	I used Meguiar's NXT with great results on my G35. In between selling that car and buying my Z, I tried out TW Ice on my wife's Murano and loved it. It almost makes it TOO easy to wax a car - it's almost like spreading Crisco on your car. Wait 30min, then come back and wipe (literally "wipe", no need to "buff") it off. Never streaked, so I'm not sure what OP did to cause streaking. The water beads up nicely so there's a protective layer that remains on the car - my #1 criteria for wax. The shine (#2), I admit, doesn't seem as deep as Meguiar's, and the smoothness of Ice is about 90% what I got with NXT. But the time and effort savings won me over. Call me lazy...

08-05-2010, 07:13 AM	#21 (permalink)
menzzer37 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 88 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 15	I've got some tech wax lying around. I'll go to that. I'm guessing my problem with ICE was I didn't let it sit long enough? My neighbor uses it on his corvette and he claims he doesn't even wipe it down.

08-05-2010, 09:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
StealthZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 356 Drives: '14 GTR Premium Rep Power: 17	Try Meg's NXT 2.0 as wel. good stuff and that is something you can actually pick up at Autozone etc... seen good results from that stuff and cheap.

08-05-2010, 09:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
menzzer37 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 88 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 15	I'm buying the NXT 2.0. Since they are both synthetics, do I need to strip or can I just wax over?

09-03-2010, 01:20 PM	#30 (permalink)
gaveup Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tamarac FL Posts: 324 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 181	Turtle wax anything is garbage. Meguiars professional line products are great, but most of the over the counter stuff is not so good. NXT is a good wax, but it still has some cleaning properties, which I don't particularly like. As far as wax goes, one of the easiest to take off ones I have been using on customers cars is Pinnacle Liquid Souvern ( Pinnacle Souveran Paste Carnauba Wax is Brilliant on Red- Awesome on Black! Souvern is hand poured, one container at a time, and boxed with an ). Goes on easy, comes off easy. On my own car I have been using Wolfgang Fuzion ( Wolfgang Fuzion Estate Car Wax contains real carnauba wax and paint sealant polymers to protect paint. ultimate show car wax, auto wax, paste wax, ). However, as everyone should know, wax is there pretty much to protect your paint. A proper polish is needed to achieve depth and gloss.