Best wax for the black Z?

RomRox

Nissan paint, lets just say it isnt the greatest ... 3 washes after some extensive paint correction to get the car "near perfect" (i.e apart from a few clearcoat scratches), I stepped out of the gym tonight to find under the outside lights some slight spider webbing happening.... I really don't understand it.

I've been using the two bucket method, with a foam gun, and one of those marino wool wash mits that look like chewbaca! Will need to do some more pain correction again... probably just Adam's Fine Machine Polish this time.

FERRARI

No doubt about the best wax.......I have been useing it for years...

Description: I know, you are probably confused by the name of this wax!

P21s explains that there are three categories of ingredients in paste wax: raw wax, an oil component and a dissolving agent. The 100% Carnauba in the name refers only to the raw wax content. The carnauba used is pure #1 grade Brazilian carnauba from the copernica cerifera tree. This P21s wax is very easy to use and will provide incredible gloss, color enhancement and surface protection in a formulation that contains no cleaners, polishing agents or abrasives.

Before waxing be sure to clean the surface thoroughly to achieve the best results. Once the surface is properly prepared, apply the wax with the special applicator included. Allow the wax to cure for just a few minutes, then buff it off with a microfiber towel to reveal impressive clarity, depth of color and shine.

Junkman2008

Wax does not make paint shine, polishing paint is what makes it shine. Carnuba paste waxes can add depth to the shine you achieve from polishing but it isn't going to make the paint any shinier. If you apply wax to your paint and the wax creates a shine, then the only thing that you have done is scrubbed off the haze and dirt that was on the paint to begin with (which creates swirls and scratches when done this way). That is the job of a polish. To remove the junk that is on top of your paint so that the shine can be seen.

Wax is a protectant. It protects the shine you get from polishing. Carnuba waxes add depth to your shine but they do not make the paint shinier.

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FERRARI

I thought that this post was about WAX !!!!!!! That is why I posted a reply about WAX !

There is only ONE Wax that is 100% Carnuba Wax.......end of story......

Junkman2008

No carnuba wax is made up of 100% carnuba. If it was, it would be hard as a brick and you couldn't do anything with it. Carnuba waxes contain a percentage of carnuba, and the rest of the product is made up of something else which makes the product pliable enough to use.

That's like saying that your car is painted with 100% paint. The paint as it comes originally is too thick to be sprayed and that's why it is mixed with other ingredients. Those other ingredients are what enables the painter to spray the paint.

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cab83_750

Too bad I could not find the comparison test from, I believe, Consumer Report. They tested many wax project, ranging from the $3.00 PepBoys OTCs to the $100.00+ waxes.

The top performers were the cheapy ones -- products below $5.00 which could be bought at PepBoys.

Junkman2008

The only test that I would believe is a test that I did myself or one that I had access to the behind the scenes information. Who knows if those test are skewed or not.

I'm not saying who's product is best as I don't have a clue. I haven't tested all of them. However, the example that I will give you is Meguiar's. They make a consumer line and a professional line. The consumer line is cheap and can be found anywhere. Their professional line (Mirror Glaze label) is only sold online or at their distributorships for a lot more money. If their consumer line is so good, why don't the professional detailers who use their more expensive Mirror Glaze products use the cheaper, more readily available stuff? The reason is because their Mirror Glaze label products are better, and you won't find them over the counter. That's the same with Zaino, Doo Doo Juice, Griot's, Adam's and a host of others. The guys with the good stuff are not going to place their stuff next to Nu Finish.

Some things like bread, dryer sheets and a host of other products are exactly the same as their more pricey competitors. Car batteries come to mind. The majority of car batteries are created by 3 manufacturers - Delphi, Exide and Johnson Controls Industries. So your expensive Die Hard may be made by the same company as a crappy Duralast. This may also be true in the detailing arena but I can only speak for what I have used. When it comes to what I have seen first hand, I know that none of the OTC products that I have used can hold a candle to the professional stuff I have used. That's first hand knowledge, not something that I have read about. Thus, I speak only from experience, not opinion.

I will say this. If you go out and pay $1999.00 for a jar of wax, you are on crack!

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cames4

OK, my thoughts and experiences ONLY and as a disclaimer, I am not a pro at painting, washing, or waxing cars. That said, I found that the Turtle Wax Ice worked fantastically on my daughters SMART car so decided to try it on my new child (3 week old 370Z) since I was not about to pay for detailing at the dealer. This is not an advertisement that I am getting paid for and I do not work for TW. My experience has been great on my daughter’s car where the shine and beading have lasted over 6 months now. Two cars completed now, 1oz of liquid wax. When I applied to my new baby even the neighbors noticed. I used paste wax for years and it offers by far the deepest shine but I have grown tired of the buffing and flakes in the crevices. Ice is easy, cheap, and it has longevity; what else can one ask for….. Again, just my humble opinion…

FERRARI

Why dont you do some research on P21S Wax ? THE WAX IS 100 % WAX........THE ONLY 100% CARNUBA WAX IN THE WORLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! There is NOTHING like it........

P21S 100% Carnauba Wax gives you a step above the original P21S Paste Carnauba. This luxurious wax applies and wipes-off as easily as any formula ever made.

It contains the absolute maximum of 100% natural Carnauba. The same gloss, color enhancement and UV protection that makes carnauba so desirable. P21S 100% Carnauba Wax gives your vehicle the full benefit of carnauba's high jetting factor, as the wax isn't blended with secondary, less beneficial waxes.

P21S 100% Carnauba Wax is perfectly formulated for the new “scratch resistant” clear coats, and does not leave white stains on most plastics and rubber.

P21S carnauba wax technology rapidly earned the respect and approval of some of the world's most famous automakers. The German made P21S carnauba wax products are the finest available for deep cleaning and protecting your vehicle.

New P21S 100% Carnauba Paste Wax comes in a blue and silver high gloss decorative box containing a 6.2 oz jar and a fatigue-easing, wax pad that speeds application.

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Ferrari -

First.... take a deep breath... you seem to be taking this all a little too personally.

Secondly, you are incorrect... no wax on the planet can be comprised entirely of carnuba - it simply isn't possible for application purposes.

Most carnaubas advertised with 50% or more Carnauba wax content are actually advertising a weight, not a volume, which is a BIG difference. 30% by volume is about 50% by weight and is about the maximum content because 35% by volume makes it almost impossible to apply or remove from a surface.

Straight from the horses mouth:

Guess what... I can say the same for our Americana Paste Wax- 100% of the wax contained in our paste wax is the highest grade of brazilian carnuba available. That doesn't make the product 100% carnuba, it means that it doesn't use other lower grade waxes (like bees wax) as filler. I won't do the underhanded marketing approach and lean on that percentage though... b/c our wax is reinforced with polymers and other ingredients to increase durability and ease of use.

If you want to do comparative values here too:

P21s - $50 for 6.2oz ($8.06 p/oz)
Americana - $70 for 10oz ($7.00 p/oz) - thats also before the forums 10% discount

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Junkman2008

Well I hate to say I told you so, so I won't.






















Aw hell, I told you so!

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