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Junkman2008 04-12-2010 11:58 PM

The PC-7424XP Orbital Polisher - Can it Damage Your Z's Paint?
 
That's the million dollar question and the answer comes with a clause. If you beat the car with it, then yes. If you use it upside down, then yes. If you are as crazy as I am and do what I do in these videos long enough, then yes.

If you use the polisher the way it was designed to be used, you will have a very hard time trying to damage your paint with it. That is especially true with the clear coat on your cars.

There are basically three types of polishers today. The orbital, the dual-action and the rotary. The rotary polisher is the one that you have heard horror stories about. The orbital is the polisher of novices around the world. This polisher is so safe that I show kids how to use them in my many clinics as I travel around the country. Take a look!

Little Angelin is using one on my Corvette...

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...lin_buffer.jpg


Another youngster is giving it a go while his proud papa watches:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...carlisle17.jpg


And here's a video of yet another youngster going at it during my appearance at the Hot August Nights Car Show in Reno, Nevada:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3YlLkk0VFg

As you can see, this polisher is so safe, a kid can use it. But in my introductory thread, you also saw how powerful this little polisher can be when used correctly. So kick your feet up and check out these videos. Then ask yourself, "Why am I doing this by hand, when I can be getting much better results using a machine that is safe enough for a kid?"

I think you'll come to the same conclusion that I have. You need to get yourself a PC!


Here are the videos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XAqpOe9Zt4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7A5BCCb7Gg

As I check the web, Tools-Plus has the best price going right now at $119 shipped! They were $109 shipped when I posted this thread!

Jeffblue 04-13-2010 12:42 AM

yea orbital random polishers are awesome. i detailed my car this weekend and it came out better than ever, and took less time. i even taught my gf how to clay her 98 jetta, and then i polished and waxed it with the orbital polisher, and the paint looks brand new. (that car had pretty dull paint when we started)

fullmonty 04-13-2010 07:17 AM

Great write up. OP- You have been on these forums for like a day, you have made 9 posts, and each one of them have been well thought out and put together. +1 rep

Junkman2008 04-13-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 494512)
Great write up. OP- You have been on these forums for like a day, you have made 9 posts, and each one of them have been well thought out and put together. +1 rep

Thank you sir! That really means a lot coming from a very active member such as yourself. I'm here to assist where I can. I really do enjoy seeing a clean ride and if anyone close to me needs any assistance, look me up. I'll be glad to lend a hand. :)

LinPark 04-13-2010 10:25 AM

+1 rep indeed - great stuff!

CBRich 04-13-2010 10:29 AM

Definitely my orbital of choice.

Gunzero 04-13-2010 10:33 AM

Do you happen to live close to West Texas?

Prosport Gauges 04-13-2010 10:48 AM

I love my PC 7424

dlmartin81 04-13-2010 10:57 AM

They work great. I used mine this past weekend. To bad it's already covered with pollen....you gotta love spring.

Prosport Gauges 04-13-2010 12:42 PM

Is anyone useing opti seal after the detail job? I was wondering if this would eliminate/help the water spots

Junkman2008 04-13-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 494713)
Do you happen to live close to West Texas?

Louisville, Kentucky, sir! :tiphat:

puckshaw 04-14-2010 07:31 PM

Awesome videos :tup:

SvR370z 05-17-2010 07:59 AM

Junkman2000 I love the videos. The in your garage production crew is off the hook.
Anyways, When would you use a pc? Would you use it for waxing each time?
Would you use it only for paint correction? Exactly how often would this beast be used?
I have a 350z but ive always waxed by hand. Maybe there is an advantage to using the Pc instead of trying to wax by hand?
Explain this to me if you could. Keep up the good work.

Junkman2008 05-17-2010 08:29 AM

It depends on what type of wax you are using. There are carnuba paste waxes that are applied by hand and then there are synthetic waxes which are applied by machine. The pad that is used to apply a synthetic wax has no cut to it whatsoever. Thus, you could use the PC every day to apply that wax if you wanted to.

When doing paint correction, you would always use a PC. Hand results are laughable when comparing to the results of a PC.

m4a1mustang 05-17-2010 08:32 AM

Junkman, any opinions on Poorboy's SSR2? I was using it on the Z to try and get rid of some swirls with no real results. I don't know if I am doing it wrong or if I need to step it up to something more abraisive...

Junkman2008 05-17-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 540540)
Junkman, any opinions on Poorboy's SSR2? I was using it on the Z to try and get rid of some swirls with no real results. I don't know if I am doing it wrong or if I need to step it up to something more abraisive...

I am not aware of that product. Were you doing it by hand or machine?

m4a1mustang 05-17-2010 08:52 AM

Machine with an orange pad.

SvR370z 05-17-2010 09:00 AM

I use Zanio wax products currently so with that said could i use the Pc with the correct pad to wax with?
What makes the pc wax job so laughable compared to hand waxing? Just a newb when it comes to waxing and pcs so bare with me. Im trying to learn :)

m4a1mustang 05-17-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SvR370z (Post 540564)
I use Zanio wax products currently so with that said could i use the Pc with the correct pad to wax with?
What makes the pc wax job so laughable compared to hand waxing? Just a newb when it comes to waxing and pcs so bare with me. Im trying to learn :)

He's talking about polishing when he says hand polishing results are laughable compared to a PC.

Junkman2008 05-17-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 540556)
Machine with an orange pad.

Have you watched my videos on how to use the PC? I usually have guys post a video of them using a PC so that I can see what they are doing. The product and pads are on half the equation. Technique is the other half. The best product with the wrong technique is just as effective as staring at the swirls real mean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SvR370z (Post 540564)
I use Zanio wax products currently so with that said could i use the Pc with the correct pad to wax with?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 540567)
He's talking about polishing when he says hand polishing results are laughable compared to a PC.

Corrrrrrect!

I'm going to post my complete paint correction thread here. Look for it in the detailing section in a few minutes.

m4a1mustang 05-17-2010 09:54 AM

I haven't seen yours yet, but I will check it out. I am still a PC newb so it's probably all in the technique for me. I need to work on it just a 'lil bit. :)

Junkman2008 05-17-2010 10:12 AM

I just posted the thread. :tup:

Xan 05-17-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 494362)
As I check the web, Tools-Plus has the best price going right now at $119 shipped! They were $109 shipped last week!

Any recommendation on the pads? I saw that in some of your videos you seemed to be using the ones that come from Adam's?

Junkman2008 05-17-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 541088)
Any recommendation on the pads? I saw that in some of your videos you seemed to be using the ones that come from Adam's?

Yes, the Adam's pads will work just fine. So will the Lake Country pads. It's totally your preference but the Adam's pads are color coated to the products. A lot of people get confused with all the choices of pads that Lake Country offers. I did too when I first started.

Xan 05-17-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 541100)
Yes, the Adam's pads will work just fine. So will the Lake Country pads. It's totally your preference but the Adam's pads are color coated to the products. A lot of people get confused with all the choices of pads that Lake Country offers. I did too when I first started.

I was looking at Lake Country and hope you can help me making sure I'm on the right pad? (phun intented :))

So for Zaino's Z5pro or Z2pro on paint I'm already happy with, would you recommend a blue, red or gold D.A. Foam Pad?

And a white one for Z-AIO on paint to polish out some of the micro scratches?

And finally an orange one with Z-PC to repair some heavier damage without the risk of messing up the paint? (call it the noob machining safety level?)

Thanks for your support!
(and I see how this hobby gets out of hand, you should see all the stuff already in my garage after watching some of your videos...:tup:)

Junkman2008 05-17-2010 05:19 PM

Allow me to make it simpler for you because it has been a while since I bought any Lake Country pads. Get the Adam's pad kit. Three pads, orange, white and black. That's a cutting pad, a finishing pad and a wax pad. Very simple and not as confusing as the Lake Country assortment. Adam's even has a heavy cutting pad (yellow), but I very seldom use it.

WI_Hedgehog 06-11-2016 08:19 AM

Chemical Brothers on Amazon have Hex Logic color coded pads for low $$$. I followed Junkman's advice and use Maguire's, the combination with his instructions help a new guy get pro results. Junkman is THE man to emulate. Red 2015 Slingshot, black 2015 370Z, both are really scratch prone and the only marks so far are from dealer prep. When I need to I'll follow his polish instructions and they'll look perfect again. (Time constraints or I'd clay now.)

Junkman, have you commented on wraps somewhere already?
http://www.the370z.com/detailing-was...on-bmw-m2.html

Junkman2008 06-11-2016 12:33 PM

I don't know anything about wraps. They have their purpose and I don't see anything wrong with them.


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