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Filth Biscuit 09-05-2017 09:14 PM

Window water spots!!!!!!!!! Holy S***!!!!
 
So a little backstory on my situation first, I guess....

My water coming out of my hose is extremely hard and alkaline (I tested it, I have an aquarium lol), and sometimes it get extremely hot in the middle of the day.

So when I am outside one lovely Sunday morning, meticulously washing my new Z with the most love and care, and i am finishing up, making sure not to let the water BAKE off my car before I have a chance to actually dry it, as it magically became hotter than Satan's taint, I think I did a pretty decent job getting to the windows especially dry in time.

Imagine my freaking surprise when I get in to drive somewhere, now being a little later in the day with a low sun, when I see it... The windows actually looked WORSE than when they were covered with 1 million bug corpses (lots of fun little bugs here too, keeps me busy). It was literally so badly water-spotted that it was like stained glass!

No store bought product I tried would even phase the nastiness that covered my windshield, not 'Invisible Glass waterspot remover', no fancy window cleaner, nothing.

One goat sacrifice, and spray bottle of half distilled water and half white vinegar later and I THINK it helped. I sprayed it on the windshield, waited a couple minutes, and went at the windshield with a bug sponge and some decent force, then wiped it clean. So I gotta say funny little things sometimes work wonders.

I am looking for a bit of advice: Besides the bug holocaust that happens every time I drive out of town that can't be helped, what can I do at home to keep these terrible waterspots off after a wash??? I don't really have the best means of hooking some fancy filter system up to my hose at the wall, but is there a product out there anyone has tried, or any kind of hose attachment that can filter and do whatever to the water that might help??

echoshotz 09-05-2017 09:39 PM

RainX always does the job for me. Water can't even stay on the windshield long enough to dry.

Filth Biscuit 09-05-2017 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by echoshotz (Post 3690867)
RainX always does the job for me. Water can't even stay on the windshield long enough to dry.

Lol, I'll have to see if that will help!

TreeSemdyZee 09-06-2017 05:00 AM

Definitely Rain-x. Make sure and follow the directions on the bottle.
I've seen bad reviews on it before and it's due to the fact that people don't know how to read.

I had forgotten how great Rain-x was until rented an SUV awhile back and got hit with a rainstorm. Couldn't see a freakin' thing when I was driving.
I also use their windshield washer fluid.

JARblue 09-06-2017 07:37 AM

Forget Rain-X ... that crap never lasts. Get some glass sealant. Stuff works wonders. Adam's is about $20 for 4oz but it lasts forever. Application only takes a few drops of the stuff. Ideally you would reapply every 1-3 months depending on the amount of driving you did in that time and any rain encountered.

SouthArk370Z 09-06-2017 10:16 AM

Your local hardware store should have an inline water softener and any fittings that may be required.

Filth Biscuit 09-06-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3690967)
Your local hardware store should have an inline water softener and any fittings that may be required.

I'll have to give it a look! thanks!

CM370z 09-06-2017 03:34 PM

White vinegar will get them right off

EDIT: don't use if you have tint

RonRizz 09-06-2017 05:31 PM

wash in cooler temps when possible.. water spots on glass, use Iso. alcohol to remove.
x2 on glass sealer over the rain X. Also, Wizards mist and shine works great on glass, as well as the rest of your car, and has No Silicone, so its body shop safe. doesn't last as long as a sealer, but works great. Sooo much easier than rain X.
If I'm not mistaken, rain X is just acetone diluted (ridiculously) with water.

TreeSemdyZee 09-06-2017 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CM370z (Post 3691086)
White vinegar will get them right off

EDIT: don't use if you have tint

Will vinegar cause the tint to go purple like ammonia?

Filth Biscuit 09-06-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3691143)
Will vinegar cause the tint to go purple like ammonia?

I mean, as long as you don't use it on the INSIDE of the window where the tint is, it should be ok....right? or no?

Filth Biscuit 09-06-2017 09:01 PM

I did notice that speed detailer spray did wipe off the windows quite nicely, and that stuff removes spots and bugs pretty well.... Maybe I could have a go? Or would it leave a funky film??

TreeSemdyZee 09-06-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Filth Biscuit (Post 3691175)
I mean, as long as you don't use it on the INSIDE of the window where the tint is, it should be ok....right? or no?

Yes. It would be fine on the outside.
I was wondering about the inside

CM370z 09-06-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3691143)
Will vinegar cause the tint to go purple like ammonia?

That I'm not sure of, but if the vinegar somehow seeps in between the tint and window, it'll eat the adhesive away from the tint. Best to be safe not use something else if you have tint

JARblue 09-07-2017 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Filth Biscuit (Post 3691176)
I did notice that speed detailer spray did wipe off the windows quite nicely, and that stuff removes spots and bugs pretty well.... Maybe I could have a go? Or would it leave a funky film??

Detailing spray is pretty much safe for any surface. If it's safe for your paint, it's safe for glass. Just don't use it on dirty paint (hello scratch city). No problems on dirty glass. But it's just a cleaner. It's not going to protect the glass or bead water or anything.

If you're still having problems with various cleaners, your best bet is to clay bar the glass :twocents:

Also, I hope you are using glass towels. The proper towel can make all the difference when it comes to glass.

Filth Biscuit 09-08-2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3691267)
Detailing spray is pretty much safe for any surface. If it's safe for your paint, it's safe for glass. Just don't use it on dirty paint (hello scratch city). No problems on dirty glass. But it's just a cleaner. It's not going to protect the glass or bead water or anything.

If you're still having problems with various cleaners, your best bet is to clay bar the glass :twocents:

Also, I hope you are using glass towels. The proper towel can make all the difference when it comes to glass.

I did consider doing a clay bar on the glass, that only works if the glass is brand new and not pitted though lol. Ok so what is a "glass towel" lol. Just been using microfibers.

JARblue 09-08-2017 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Filth Biscuit (Post 3691603)
I did consider doing a clay bar on the glass, that only works if the glass is brand new and not pitted though lol.

:icon14: Completely untrue. Based on that statement, I'm not sure you understand how clay works. A clay bar actually pulls embedded contaminants out of the clear coat on your paint. Same with the pitting on your glass. If there is pitting in your window so deep the clay bar is not working, then it sounds like you have chips that need repairing.

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Originally Posted by Filth Biscuit (Post 3691603)
Ok so what is a "glass towel" lol. Just been using microfibers.

A glass towel is a specific type of microfiber towel with low pile and much tighter woven fibers. They will do a much better job than a standard microfiber towel when it comes to glass. Even cheap glass towels from the local auto parts store I find work far better than the high quality Eagle Edgeless microfiber towels I buy from The Rag Company.

RonRizz 09-08-2017 10:40 AM

:iagree:

barncobob 09-09-2017 07:58 AM

I used Klasse auto polish once, worked well...think any polish will work as long as it has a little grit in it

RyanWest 09-09-2017 09:22 PM

So many post and no mention of filtering the water. You need to add a filtration system , and wash your car during the evening after the car cools down. :)

RonRizz 09-10-2017 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanWest (Post 3691931)
So many post and no mention of filtering the water. You need to add a filtration system , and wash your car during the evening after the car cools down. :)

:ugh2: several mentions of it already...... even the op mentioned it.

Filth Biscuit 09-10-2017 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3691619)
:icon14: Completely untrue. Based on that statement, I'm not sure you understand how clay works. A clay bar actually pulls embedded contaminants out of the clear coat on your paint. Same with the pitting on your glass. If there is pitting in your window so deep the clay bar is not working, then it sounds like you have chips that need repairing.

That's essentially what I am talking about with pits, im not talking waterspots, im talking a ton of tiny tiny pits in the glass from weathering over several years. If the clay goes over these and gets trapped, I bet it wouldn't be fun to try and remove.

I know exactly what a clay bar is for, its just something I read on a detailing website about using clay on glass, and it kinda makes sense if it is a real old beat up windscreen.

SouthArk370Z 09-10-2017 05:15 PM

I will clay bar my windshield every now and then to get rid of the gunk that chemical cleaners don't want to remove. It seems to be easier on the glass than using an abrasive cleaner. YMMV

For minor pitting of the glass, you might try polishing with an appropriate abrasive and an electric buffer. The pits will still be there but less visible.
I've seen products that are supposed to fill in the pits but have no idea how well they work.

JARblue 09-11-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Filth Biscuit (Post 3692091)
If the clay goes over these and gets trapped, I bet it wouldn't be fun to try and remove.

It won't get trapped if you're properly lubing (detail spray) while you clay. I put over 95K miles on my first windshield before having it replaced recently. Never once worried about the pitting in it.

Bugkillah 09-11-2017 08:02 PM

My post from a couple of months ago...
 
http://www.the370z.com/detailing-was...etup-home.html

Basically, get an inline water softener from lowes or home depot, with the necessary garden hose thread adapters (like the ones in the pics). If your water is too hard, you may have to get an additional de-ionizer filter too.

Filth Biscuit 09-11-2017 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3692288)
It won't get trapped if you're properly lubing (detail spray) while you clay. I put over 95K miles on my first windshield before having it replaced recently. Never once worried about the pitting in it.

Well, that sure is reassuring!

Kzonts 10-07-2023 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3691826)
I used Klasse auto polish once, worked well...think any polish will work as long as it has a little grit in it

Klasse does the job. I had a lot of water spots. I tried a few different polishes and water spot remover. Klasse was the only thing that worked. Also had an imprint of a leave on the hood. Nothing would get it out except Klasse. Good ****!

Kenwoodturbo 11-05-2023 08:24 PM

Buy glass stripper, many different brands but will resolve the issue


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