Nissan 370Z Forum  

touchless car wash

Originally Posted by MacCool Yeah...I'm going to go with Internet lore. ; Sorry, its no myth - its a well known fact that automatic car washes touchless or not, use

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Detailing / Washing / Waxing / Cosmetic Maintenance and Repair


Like Tree38Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-03-2016, 09:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Nick M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 281
Drives: 2009 370z
Rep Power: 12
Nick M is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
Yeah...I'm going to go with Internet lore.



;
Sorry, its no myth - its a well known fact that automatic car washes touchless or not, use very harsh soaps and detergents.
__________________
| 2015 Nismo headlights| 275/305 | Z1 spacers | Eibach Pro-kit |k&n typhoons | AAM S-Line catback + FI test pipes | Stillen splitter |
Nick M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 12:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,048
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Rep Power: 10259
Junkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YzGyz View Post
GOAM Gun FTW!! Never 2 bucket again! I simply fan and scrub a panel at a time while dunking the MIT in a water bucket between panels. I use the big green turtle soap from the local car store. They usually have online coupons when I buy online and pick up the supplies in 15 minutes; all at a discounted price.

YzGyz
The foam gun is supposed to be used in conjunction with the 2-bucket wash, NOT in place of. If you are using one bucket and the foam gun to wash your car, you're doing it wrong. That's not what the foam gun was designed for.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 01:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Wheels3309's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 301
Drives: 2015 370Z Nismo 7/AT
Rep Power: 10
Wheels3309 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
The foam gun is supposed to be used in conjunction with the 2-bucket wash, NOT in place of. If you are using one bucket and the foam gun to wash your car, you're doing it wrong. That's not what the foam gun was designed for.


Do as the junkman says... Foam first, then 2 bucket wash (hell, I add a third just for the wheels!)

__________________


Daily Driven 2015 370Z NISMO 7AT | Pearl White | R2C Black Hex Drop-ins | HPS Post MAF Tubes | Top Speed Pro 1 Axle-back Exhaust
Wheels3309 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 06:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
YzGyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,449
Drives: 2010 Nismo
Rep Power: 63
YzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
The foam gun is supposed to be used in conjunction with the 2-bucket wash, NOT in place of. If you are using one bucket and the foam gun to wash your car, you're doing it wrong. That's not what the foam gun was designed for.
Let me get this strait, in the two bucket method you use one bucket with soap and one with rinse water. You spray car down with hose then dunk mitt/sponge or whatever you use and clean the panel. Once you do clean the little area, you dunk the dirty mitt in the rinse bucket (not all the way down as to not puck up more dirt). You then dunk the clean rinsed off mitt into the soap bucket and repeat. Correct? Does this not mean the first bucket is to simply hold clean soapy water which you wash the car with?

My method is spray the whole car with pressure washer. fill 2 gallon bucket with rinse water. Foam gun my car on 1 side, then use my mitt to wash the car's 1 side with intermittent rinsing of the mitt as I wash the car. Once the car is washed, I pressure wash the rest of the dirt, soap and junk off the one side I just cleaned and along with the rest of my car. I like to keep my car wet at all times until time to dry. Then I move to another side of the car. I repeat the process and when I spray off the junk again, I re-rinse the whole car. I repeat the process 4x. Once for each side.

Can you explain why I would need the first bucket? I guess I'm missing some point and don't know it. Or maybe I'm not. I know how to clean my hands really well as I wash my hands over 50x in my 12 hr shift each night I work.

In case I never said it before, Thanks for the DIY vid on polishing the car. It was good brain food (the standing on car dance was cool). I polished my car for the first time a few months back with instructions from your video.

YzGyz
YzGyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 08:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,048
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Rep Power: 10259
Junkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YzGyz View Post
Let me get this strait, in the two bucket method you use one bucket with soap and one with rinse water. You spray car down with hose then dunk mitt/sponge or whatever you use and clean the panel. Once you do clean the little area, you dunk the dirty mitt in the rinse bucket (not all the way down as to not puck up more dirt). You then dunk the clean rinsed off mitt into the soap bucket and repeat. Correct? Does this not mean the first bucket is to simply hold clean soapy water which you wash the car with?
And that paragraph right there shows that you completely have no understanding of the 2-bucket wash and how it is done. I suggest that you watch my 2-bucket wash videos so that you can get a THOROUGH understanding of WHAT is done, HOW it is done and WHY it is done that way. The fact that you don't even mention the most important part of the buckets (the Grit Guards), tells me that you have either never watched MY videos on the process or misunderstood what you watched. Every part of MY 2-bucket wash has a purpose, from what is done to the equipment used. Leaving out ANY part of it spells damage to your paint.

I have been fooling with this field since the late 70's and have been trying to figure out the SAFEST way to touch my paint. I sleep this stuff so you can bet that I've put a ton of thought into my processes.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."

Last edited by Junkman2008; 06-03-2016 at 08:25 PM.
Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 08:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Wheels3309's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 301
Drives: 2015 370Z Nismo 7/AT
Rep Power: 10
Wheels3309 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
And that paragraph right there shows that you completely have no understanding of the 2-bucket wash and how it is done. I suggest that you watch my 2-bucket wash videos so that you can get a THOROUGH understanding of WHAT is done, HOW it is done and WHY it is done that way. The fact that you don't even mention the most important part of the buckets (the Grit Guards), tells me that you have either never watched MY videos on the process or misunderstood what you watched. Every part of MY 2-bucket wash has a purpose, from what is done to the equipment used. Leaving out ANY part of it spells damage to your paint.

I have been fooling with this field since the late 70's and have been trying to figure out the SAFEST way to touch my paint. I sleep this stuff so you can bet that I've put a ton of thought into my processes.
__________________


Daily Driven 2015 370Z NISMO 7AT | Pearl White | R2C Black Hex Drop-ins | HPS Post MAF Tubes | Top Speed Pro 1 Axle-back Exhaust
Wheels3309 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 08:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
YzGyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,449
Drives: 2010 Nismo
Rep Power: 63
YzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Will do. Thanks again. I have no problem admitting fault or ignorance. All part of life and lessons learned. As for owned? Nah, I don't think he was blasting me or anything. Just pointing out specifics. ☺

YzGyz
YzGyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 09:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,048
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Rep Power: 10259
Junkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I definitely wasn't blasting you. Not at all.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 09:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
YzGyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,449
Drives: 2010 Nismo
Rep Power: 63
YzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Ok I watched it again. It's been a long while since I seen it. I wash my car very similar to you but not exact. I dingy have the grit guard. I do intermittently use the power washer and blast junk off my mitt after a few wash/rinse cycles. Mayhap that is why I figured I don't need a soap bucket as I figured the foam gun and pressure washer rids of taped grime. The other difference is I use a pressure washer. I blast junk out of rims, tire wells and under carriage like you. I just don't have the gutter attachment and end up on my knees trying to angle the stream upward as best I can.

Anyhoo, good brain food. Guess I need more stuff.
YzGyz
YzGyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 10:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,048
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Rep Power: 10259
Junkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The problem with a pressure washer is it still doesn't remove all of the grime attached to the paint. You have to PHYSICALLY touch that dirt in order to remove it. This is why at a touchless car wash, they use not only pressure to clean the car, but some of the harshest chemicals on your paint. Those chemicals are not good for your paint or your paint's protection (wax). Pressure alone will not get the job done and once you start drying the car, you grind all that matted dirt into your paint, creating damage. This is why I don't use a pressure washer to wash my car. It doesn't get it any cleaner, especially if the car has been driven in inclement weather.

If you are rinsing a wash mitt in your hand, you will never remove all of the dirt and grit like you will by submerging that mitt underwater. Submerging allows ALL of the grit to be released at once. Rinsing it leaves the opportunity for some grit to remain behind, no matter what amount of pressure you use. It also is more of a waste of water.
YzGyz and WI_Hedgehog like this.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 10:08 AM   #26 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 76,801
Drives: N/A
Rep Power: 141521
kenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond reputekenchan has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I bet most yellowed headlights are from these autowash's harsh chemicals too. UV alone does not do it. i know cause my dd's are parked out doors 24/7 and they never had dat yellowing even after 7yrs.
Latt likes this.
kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 10:29 AM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,048
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Rep Power: 10259
Junkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond reputeJunkman2008 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

That's an interesting hypothesis. I've never thought of that.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 03:50 PM   #28 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
YzGyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,449
Drives: 2010 Nismo
Rep Power: 63
YzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond reputeYzGyz has a reputation beyond repute
Default

My headlights yellowed a little bit. I just redid them a few days ago. I own a 2010 and have not gone threw a car wash since ownership at 17k now at 49k. But I'm with you on the chems.

YzGyz
YzGyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2016, 09:19 AM   #29 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 853
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

I ONLY use touchless car wash rarely in the winter to wash off the harsh salt on the car if I can't get to wash. It will strip carnuba wax and some lighter waxes off no issue. Sealants you can go through about 4 times before it will strip it.
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2016, 09:45 AM   #30 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Wheels3309's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 301
Drives: 2015 370Z Nismo 7/AT
Rep Power: 10
Wheels3309 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YzGyz View Post
Will do. Thanks again. I have no problem admitting fault or ignorance. All part of life and lessons learned. As for owned? Nah, I don't think he was blasting me or anything. Just pointing out specifics. ☺

YzGyz
No blasting intended... just being funny. (I always laugh at JM... love his conviction!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
I definitely wasn't blasting you. Not at all.
WI_Hedgehog likes this.
__________________


Daily Driven 2015 370Z NISMO 7AT | Pearl White | R2C Black Hex Drop-ins | HPS Post MAF Tubes | Top Speed Pro 1 Axle-back Exhaust
Wheels3309 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is Touchless Car Washing Good or Bad? Step In! Junkman2008 Detailing / Washing / Waxing / Cosmetic Maintenance and Repair 16 07-13-2014 03:23 AM
Should I let them dry my car at the touchless car wash Kqpro88 Detailing / Washing / Waxing / Cosmetic Maintenance and Repair 12 01-29-2014 08:10 AM
Touchless tire mounting in SGV? dP3NGU1N Wheels & Tires 0 06-13-2013 12:44 AM
Touchless carwashes? TripleBlkZ Detailing / Washing / Waxing / Cosmetic Maintenance and Repair 7 07-21-2010 08:35 AM
Touchless Car Cover moondoggy Nissan 370Z General Discussions 18 04-28-2009 09:50 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2