1342KM (1.5 month) Oil Change

YamahaR6 · 08-18-2009, 09:17 PM

This is what the oil looks like after 1342KM:

This is what left over:

If I knew the oil looks like this after 1342KM, I would of changed it at 1000KM or even sooner. BTW, in case some of you are wondering, I am doing slow breakin, under 4K RPM.

6MT · 08-18-2009, 09:27 PM

Wow, that looks pretty black. I did the same as you for break-in. My shift points were around 3-3.5K and my first oil change was at 2400kms. But my oil was much cleaner than yours looks in the pictures.
If you still have some of that old oil left, maybe you should have it analyzed (?).

BTW, I am using a magnetic drain plug and a magnetic "clamp" around my oil filter to attract metal that's circulating in the engine. (A.K. gave me the idea.... simple, yet effective.)

YamahaR6 · 08-18-2009, 09:45 PM

I did the same as well. Filter Mag and Kic Mag filter plug.

Also, about 4 litres came out only and 5.4 litres went in. Came to a surprise for me as well.

Which oil did you use for your first change? I used Nissan Ester.

6MT · 08-18-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YamahaR6

I did the same as well. Filter Mag and Kic Mag filter plug.

Also, about 4 litres came out only and 5.4 litres went in. Came to a surprise for me as well.

Which oil did you use for your first change? I used Nissan Ester.

Amsoil 5W30 full synthetic with the Nissan filter.

Philipp · 08-18-2009, 10:46 PM

Doesn't look good at all...

I would keep it in case of problems in the futur...
Maybe do another oil change in 1K and compare results.
ps. If similar, talk to your dealer asap.
ps2. Do not use synthetic oil until all those pieces are gone...

YamahaR6 · 08-18-2009, 11:07 PM

I am not too worried about it. I think it's typical that new engine has small particles; that's why I made an early oil change.

But will do another oil change around 3K-4K and if I still see that many particles, I will start to worry.

Reality · 08-19-2009, 09:00 AM

Yikes! That oil is really black..
Particles are normal during break-in... I changed my revup v2 motor's oil at 200km after a hard break-in and it showed tiny amounts of particulate..

However, I would be concerned that you lost 1.5 ltr's of oil.... That is a rather large amount, even for break-in.

YamahaR6 · 08-19-2009, 09:36 AM

I poured the old oil to a 3.78L windsheild container and toped it off and alittle change. So I think I got about 4.3L of old oils out.

The car ran smoother (shift and accelerate). I will do another oil change at 4K or so to see how much oil comes out.

6MT · 08-19-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp

ps2. Do not use synthetic oil until all those pieces are gone...

Why would you "not" use synthetic?

6MT · 08-19-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Reality

However, I would be concerned that you lost 1.5 ltr's of oil.... That is a rather large amount, even for break-in.

I don't think that's all that bad. I used 1.5 litres of oil during my first 2400 kms. Not unusual at all.

YamahaR6 · 08-19-2009, 10:43 AM

My next oil change will be Red Line synthetic. I think 1342km is still early for synthetic. I know there's going to be debate on this...BMW, Porsche, Benz...all use synthetic from factory...bla bla bla...

But bottom line is...whatever makes you sleep better at night.

FricFrac · 08-19-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YamahaR6

My next oil change will be Red Line synthetic. I think 1342km is still early for synthetic. I know there's going to be debate on this...BMW, Porsche, Benz...all use synthetic from factory...bla bla bla...

But bottom line is...whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Uh and doesn't Nissan use the Ester oil from the factory as well? Its a synthetic as well (Ester is a class V synthetic)

YamahaR6 · 08-19-2009, 02:58 PM

I "think" Nissan Ester oil are Dino oils with Ester additives. (from what I read)

6MT · 08-19-2009, 03:32 PM

Careful folks.... this might start another oil war.

btw, Nissan "Ester" oil is a synthetic and it is used right from the factory in our engines

FricFrac · 08-19-2009, 10:18 PM

From what we can tell its based on the Pennzoil Platinum synthetic....

08-18-2009, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 17	1342KM (1.5 month) Oil Change This is what the oil looks like after 1342KM: This is what left over: If I knew the oil looks like this after 1342KM, I would of changed it at 1000KM or even sooner. BTW, in case some of you are wondering, I am doing slow breakin, under 4K RPM. Last edited by YamahaR6; 08-18-2009 at 09:20 PM.

08-18-2009, 09:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1790	Wow, that looks pretty black. I did the same as you for break-in. My shift points were around 3-3.5K and my first oil change was at 2400kms. But my oil was much cleaner than yours looks in the pictures. If you still have some of that old oil left, maybe you should have it analyzed (?). BTW, I am using a magnetic drain plug and a magnetic "clamp" around my oil filter to attract metal that's circulating in the engine. (A.K. gave me the idea.... simple, yet effective.) __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D Last edited by 6MT; 08-18-2009 at 09:35 PM.

08-18-2009, 10:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Philipp Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 189 Drives: 370z SP MT Titanium Rep Power: 16	Doesn't look good at all... I would keep it in case of problems in the futur... Maybe do another oil change in 1K and compare results. ps. If similar, talk to your dealer asap. ps2. Do not use synthetic oil until all those pieces are gone... __________________ 2009 370z, MT & Sport package. DynoPack (stock): 268.8WHP & 224.4 Torque//K&N filters//Air cabin filter//HPS Tubes//Tune to come when VVEL...

08-19-2009, 09:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Reality Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 290 Drives: '06 PPW GT Rep Power: 17	Yikes! That oil is really black.. Particles are normal during break-in... I changed my revup v2 motor's oil at 200km after a hard break-in and it showed tiny amounts of particulate.. However, I would be concerned that you lost 1.5 ltr's of oil.... That is a rather large amount, even for break-in. Alaric likes this. __________________ //2005 35th SB #81 [tyra] SOLD //2006 GT PPW SOLD

08-19-2009, 03:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1790	Careful folks.... this might start another oil war. btw, Nissan "Ester" oil is a synthetic and it is used right from the factory in our engines __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

08-18-2009, 09:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 17	I did the same as well. Filter Mag and Kic Mag filter plug. Also, about 4 litres came out only and 5.4 litres went in. Came to a surprise for me as well. Which oil did you use for your first change? I used Nissan Ester.

08-18-2009, 11:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 17	I am not too worried about it. I think it's typical that new engine has small particles; that's why I made an early oil change. But will do another oil change around 3K-4K and if I still see that many particles, I will start to worry.

08-19-2009, 09:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 17	I poured the old oil to a 3.78L windsheild container and toped it off and alittle change. So I think I got about 4.3L of old oils out. The car ran smoother (shift and accelerate). I will do another oil change at 4K or so to see how much oil comes out.

08-19-2009, 10:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 17	My next oil change will be Red Line synthetic. I think 1342km is still early for synthetic. I know there's going to be debate on this...BMW, Porsche, Benz...all use synthetic from factory...bla bla bla... But bottom line is...whatever makes you sleep better at night.

08-19-2009, 02:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 17	I "think" Nissan Ester oil are Dino oils with Ester additives. (from what I read)

08-19-2009, 10:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 229	From what we can tell its based on the Pennzoil Platinum synthetic.... __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

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