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radek7633 11-28-2011 05:02 PM

Amuse in Canada =\
 
has anyone found/been able to buy an amuse vestito kit in Canada?
any shop I go to does not have a distributor for this item.

also, what is the price for poly? ive only seen FG at 1200 and CF at 4000 online =\

thanks guys :tiphat:

370Ztune 11-28-2011 05:11 PM

We're Amuse's exclusive direct dealer in North America and we've shipped a few parts to Canada. The prices you're mentioning aren't for the real Amuse kit though; they're for the knock-off.

Da.Menace 11-28-2011 05:50 PM

Agreed. Please support the original manufacturers by buying an authentic kit.

BTW, where the hell did you find a CF replica that costs $4000? Aren't they selling them here on the forum for $2500?

radek7633 11-28-2011 06:31 PM

Ebay has an amuse kit for 4G ... thought it was a bit overpriced!

radek7633 11-28-2011 10:23 PM

One of the 370z members PM'd me offering me second hand:

made by AMS, Fiberglasses.

Replica Front Side Spoiler I will give you $1900
Authentic Rear $1800

what do you guys think? its second hand, and painted (not my colour)

kuriz32 11-29-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radek7633 (Post 1427049)
One of the 370z members PM'd me offering me second hand:

made by AMS, Fiberglasses.

Replica Front Side Spoiler I will give you $1900
Authentic Rear $1800

what do you guys think? its second hand, and painted (not my colour)

That kit is a copy of a copy. The quality is most likely very poor and will need quite a bit of work to make it fit right.

younter 11-29-2011 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuriz32 (Post 1427171)
That kit is a copy of a copy. The quality is most likely very poor and will need quite a bit of work to make it fit right.

I guess since is already on the seller's Z, the fitment issue is gone..:driving:

gabo 11-29-2011 08:45 PM

buddy buy them from carbon signal. i have a friend he bought the full amuse CF kit and the fitment was dead on. looks perfect looks awesome. they have specials a lot of times for the full kit. i think its around 2500 to 3000 max for the full kit

younter 11-29-2011 09:08 PM

just gonna ask something off topic..anyone know where to get the tower hook?

jazz 11-30-2011 01:36 PM

amuse japan will shipp it to your door for a lot less then th prices you are speaking about!

370Ztune 11-30-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1429538)
amuse japan will shipp it to your door for a lot less then th prices you are speaking about!

Amuse does not like to sell direct to places outside of Japan. That's why they have distributors/dealers.

jazz 11-30-2011 01:49 PM

not sure what you are talking about...they are willing to ship me the kit! without the wing to my door!!

jazz 11-30-2011 01:51 PM

ill take orders for people if they want this kit right from japan!

younter 11-30-2011 02:16 PM

Japan? FRP? How much is that gonna cost?

jazz 11-30-2011 02:22 PM

its under 3000 shiped to your door! thats with the wing. i think he said 2800 without.

i emailed them, they took a day or 2 to reply.

younter 11-30-2011 02:27 PM

wow. the wing is only 200? in that case...

jazz 11-30-2011 02:30 PM

not much to a wing...

Da.Menace 11-30-2011 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1429593)
its under 3000 shiped to your door! thats with the wing. i think he said 2800 without.

i emailed them, they took a day or 2 to reply.

Just want to make sure.. you emailed directly to amuse for this?

The wing is listed as 98000 yen MSRP.. approx $1260 USD. Its really weird that they could sell you the wing for under $200..

younter 11-30-2011 03:49 PM

I think the wing you order yourself is gonna be much than that...and what? is it shipped?

Da.Menace 11-30-2011 03:52 PM

Anyways... the cheapest price I could find online, sold in Japan, for 3 piece kit is 235,840 yen ($3040 USD), this is before any kind of tax and shipping.

I don't know how legit jazz's deal is, but personally I'd rather buying it from a US authorized dealer. Easier to deal with if anything happened during shipment, or anything wrong with the item.

VancouverZ34 12-01-2011 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 1429539)
Amuse does not like to sell direct to places outside of Japan. That's why they have distributors/dealers.

I was able to get the R1000 $500 below your price and shipped out in 2 days and arrived in 48 hours at the nearest airport. I would support you guys if you guys dropped price a bit. There's discount from amuse as soon as you say you are a retailer and u guys are distributor. And you still add stiff amount on top. I'm sure you guys are at least making 60% and creating all these "JDM" myth.
And that's not fair for the consumers.

Snakes709 12-01-2011 02:29 AM

personally i think the only body kit on a 370z should be the nismo. The Amuse and 99% of the other kits look rice as hell and are overly expensive. But thats just my opinion

Megan370z 12-01-2011 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709 (Post 1430709)
personally i think the only body kit on a 370z should be the nismo. The Amuse and 99% of the other kits look rice as hell and are overly expensive. But thats just my opinion


as for me the only 2 body kit on the 370z would be the real Nismo setup and the Amuse ,,
everybody has an opinion ! :tup:

Dizzy 12-01-2011 10:07 PM

Or no body kit. Body kits are for kids in Honda Civics.

What an expensive way to ruin such a sexy car. Great way to turn your Z into rice.

Like he said, everyone has an opinion!

kuriz32 12-02-2011 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 1430700)
I was able to get the R1000 $500 below your price and shipped out in 2 days and arrived in 48 hours at the nearest airport. I would support you guys if you guys dropped price a bit. There's discount from amuse as soon as you say you are a retailer and u guys are distributor. And you still add stiff amount on top. I'm sure you guys are at least making 60% and creating all these "JDM" myth.
And that's not fair for the consumers.

That doesn't really make sense. If you bought the R1000 new, it should have cost you at least $2000 (even if you bought it at the better exchange rates of last year), as it's 179,000 JPY. At the current rates, if you do a direct conversion with no shipping costs or duties it's $2355.26 (370ztune is selling it for $2350 on their site), so I'm confused how you paid $500 less than that. Either you bought a used exhaust, or you just got a really really really good deal.

By the way, most aftermarket parts companies don't make much money (less than 25% before credit card fees and overhead), especially with JDM stuff. There was actually a really good thread on the GT-R boards about this:
VENDORS - POST PRICES! - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

Da.Menace 12-02-2011 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuriz32 (Post 1432502)
That doesn't really make sense. If you bought the R1000 new, it should have cost you at least $2000 (even if you bought it at the better exchange rates of last year), as it's 179,000 JPY. At the current rates, if you do a direct conversion with no shipping costs or duties it's $2355.26 (370ztune is selling it for $2350 on their site), so I'm confused how you paid $500 less than that. Either you bought a used exhaust, or you just got a really really really good deal.

By the way, most aftermarket parts companies don't make much money (less than 25% before credit card fees and overhead), especially with JDM stuff. There was actually a really good thread on the GT-R boards about this:
VENDORS - POST PRICES! - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

Well its not entirely impossible to buy them at a discount, if purchased directly from the manufacturer.. With the economy like how it is now, maybe they're just trying to make every dollar they could.

370Ztune 12-02-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 1430700)
I was able to get the R1000 $500 below your price and shipped out in 2 days and arrived in 48 hours at the nearest airport. I would support you guys if you guys dropped price a bit. There's discount from amuse as soon as you say you are a retailer and u guys are distributor. And you still add stiff amount on top. I'm sure you guys are at least making 60% and creating all these "JDM" myth.
And that's not fair for the consumers.

Just saw this. If you think we're making 60%, then you are very misinformed. After CC fees, overhead, inventory risk and all the other costs associated with the sale, most companies in this industry will average <20%; on Amuse parts at the current exchange rate, it could be less than that for some items.

Regarding the exhaust, Amuse has never sold anything directly to an end consumer in Canada. Additionally, they do not keep stock of any exhausts, so it seems like you might have gotten a pre-owned exhaust, which, whether used or not, would be cheaper.

VancouverZ34 12-03-2011 01:21 AM

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I guess Japanese people really know how to make a pre-owned product look like a brand new product, EH? :roflpuke2: :tup:

Back in 2010 April, I paid exact MSRP listed on webamuse.co.jp and Amuse introduced me to an exporter who probably got 20~30% discount from amuse and he charged me roughly around $100 for air shipping.
didn't even charge me extra $150 bucks for "gold ring" option :happydance:
forgot to mention, I initially ordered different color combination and changed a day after. They did not have A problem making sure my order gets to Vancouver airport in estimated time from my initial contact to them (2 weeks).

You guys make customers wait for like 6 months, take all orders from people saying "this exclusive product from the land of rising sun........... takes 3 month to 6 months to produce". Isn't it more like bundling as many orders as possible during that period of time to reach deeper level of discount and then ship it by choosing cheapest shipping method which is mass shipping my container?? :roflpuke2:

All I'm trying to do here is to acknowledge consumers.

and I'm not going to shut up about it this time.

When I got the exhaust almost 2 years ago and posted review on the forum, you pm'd me telling me to take it off, because it affects your business.

Keep stealing money from people like that :roflpuke2:

VancouverZ34 12-03-2011 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 1433004)
Just saw this. If you think we're making 60%, then you are very misinformed. After CC fees, overhead, inventory risk and all the other costs associated with the sale, most companies in this industry will average <20%; on Amuse parts at the current exchange rate, it could be less than that for some items.

Regarding the exhaust, Amuse has never sold anything directly to an end consumer in Canada. Additionally, they do not keep stock of any exhausts, so it seems like you might have gotten a pre-owned exhaust, which, whether used or not, would be cheaper.

by the way, I have to agree with you on amuse not stocking any exhausts.
BUT they do keep different sections, once order is taken, all they have to do is weld maybe 3 pipes together.

and Yes, amuse has never sold anything directly to an end consumer, but they referred me to an exporter. I spoke to Mrs. Tanabe on the phone.

Da.Menace 12-03-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 1434103)
You guys make customers wait for like 6 months, take all orders from people saying "this exclusive product from the land of rising sun........... takes 3 month to 6 months to produce". Isn't it more like bundling as many orders as possible during that period of time to reach deeper level of discount and then ship it by choosing cheapest shipping method which is mass shipping my container?? :roflpuke2:

As much as I hate to say this, but this is very true.

A friend of mine ordered a spoiler for his car last year (Will not specify car and wing model to prevent complications) from Bulletproof, which is one of Bespoke Venture's child company (same owner as 370ztune). It took over 6 months for his spoiler to arrive. While another friend, ordered the same item, but this time from a vendor on Rakuten, paid a little bit less than the 1st one including international shipping, and received it in 2 weeks time. The 2nd one was purchased 1 month after the order at Bulletproof was placed.

Moral of the story: Not all items are impossible/expensive to import from Japan yourself. It is more hassle to deal with due to language differences, and maybe limited end user support (Note: that I said "maybe limited", and not "NO"), but you might end up saving a bit, plus maybe get the items quicker.

Please also note that this post is not targeted at 370ZTune, Bulletproof, nor Bespoke Ventures at all. It is a generic message to tell people that what the difference is here.. Pay a little more to get full end user support + less hassle, or pay a little less if you think the hassle is worth it.

Z eliminator 12-03-2011 05:21 AM

I will be looking at his car this coming tuesday.
it should look good with the gtr style carbon fibre hood, and vented carbon fenders that I have.
stage 2 gtm SC. nisimo suspension and gtm stage 4 traney with 4.08 gears = one nasty 370 Z.
11's coming soon in the 1/4 mile!
Z

Snakes709 12-03-2011 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 1434146)
I will be looking at his car this coming tuesday.
it should look good with the gtr style carbon fibre hood, and vented carbon fenders that I have.
stage 2 gtm SC. nisimo suspension and gtm stage 4 traney with 4.08 gears = one nasty 370 Z.
11's coming soon in the 1/4 mile!
Z

Are you referring to your car? lol, you been saying that for over a year now. You were the first person to order the gtm sc, but yet to install it and run those times.

Z eliminator 12-03-2011 07:39 AM

i got the stage 2 SC. had a delay getting the actual blower. I was over at TAG race car yestrday talking to Mel about getting a date for the install.

W.O.W. 370Z 12-03-2011 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 1434146)
I will be looking at his car this coming tuesday.
it should look good with the gtr style carbon fibre hood, and vented carbon fenders that I have.
stage 2 gtm SC. nisimo suspension and gtm stage 4 traney with 4.08 gears = one nasty 370 Z.
11's coming soon in the 1/4 mile!
Z

Less talk more action!!!

:)

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LMBmikeZ 12-03-2011 08:38 AM

Wtf happened to this thread?:confused: It went from amuse talk up to the last comment da menace posted. Then you go on to talking about your (z eliminator) build? Where did this three go on page 3??????

Z eliminator 12-03-2011 10:35 AM

im looking at buying the body kit from him.

370Ztune 12-03-2011 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 1434103)
I guess Japanese people really know how to make a pre-owned product look like a brand new product, EH? :roflpuke2: :tup:

Back in 2010 April, I paid exact MSRP listed on webamuse.co.jp and Amuse introduced me to an exporter who probably got 20~30% discount from amuse and he charged me roughly around $100 for air shipping.
didn't even charge me extra $150 bucks for "gold ring" option :happydance:
forgot to mention, I initially ordered different color combination and changed a day after. They did not have A problem making sure my order gets to Vancouver airport in estimated time from my initial contact to them (2 weeks).

You guys make customers wait for like 6 months, take all orders from people saying "this exclusive product from the land of rising sun........... takes 3 month to 6 months to produce". Isn't it more like bundling as many orders as possible during that period of time to reach deeper level of discount and then ship it by choosing cheapest shipping method which is mass shipping my container?? :roflpuke2:

All I'm trying to do here is to acknowledge consumers.

and I'm not going to shut up about it this time.

When I got the exhaust almost 2 years ago and posted review on the forum, you pm'd me telling me to take it off, because it affects your business.

Keep stealing money from people like that :roflpuke2:

I didn't imply that it was used, just that it might have been ordered, delivered and then had been inventory that somebody resold. Regarding your exhaust, many of the R1000 mufflers are prebuilt before the exhaust is, so that might be why it was easy for you to change which burn you wanted so quickly.

We make an effort to deliver special order parts in 8-12 weeks, and we've been pretty consistent at keeping to that average. We've never told anyone that anything takes "3-6 months to produce," so I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. Regarding discount levels, our purchasing price does not change order to order; it's consistently the same regardless of how much we buy (or don't). We do not hold orders, they are placed either the same day they are received or within a few days after (depends on the time of the day and the day of the week it's ordered from us).

We ship via containers, because as you mentioned, it averages the cost down for everyone. However, unlike many of the other importers in this industry we don't hold our shipments, we ship at least one container every 3-4 weeks. Yes, it's slower, but the cost is significantly cheaper.

As a note, there are several users on this board that received Amuse exhausts well within the 8-12 weeks quoted (a couple of them even faster). (FYI: to air freight an R1 Titan exhaust to the US costs almost $1000 via several of the air freight companies - the box is triple the size of the R1000 box you received. To air freight a Vestito kit to North America is around $1400-1800 or more as the box is huge - refrigerator size.)

Regarding the build times for Amuse exhausts, they're not simply just "thrown together" in a day or two. I've tracked build time on several R1 Titan exhausts for CZ4A, Z33, Z34 and GT-R (the most complicated exhausts Amuse offers), and it averages out to 3-4 weeks for actual construction time. The R1000 exhausts that aren't "header-back" like the Z34, Supra, Evo 7-9, R34 GT-R etc take a bit less time to build as they're much less complex - long piece of tubing with some bends and a muffler section.

As I wasn't the one handling the370z inquiries 2 years ago and the person that was longer works for us; I'm honestly not sure what transpired so I can't comment on that.

I'm sorry if you have a particular issue or beef with us, but please don't spread misinformation regarding our delivery times and our costing. We're in this business because it's also our hobby and something we're passionate about. We're not out to rip anybody off or get rich, as it's very difficult (read: almost impossible) for anybody to get rich in the aftermarket parts industry, unless you do manufacturing in China/Taiwan/Thailand etc and mark up a few hundred percent.

kchu221 12-03-2011 11:41 AM

^.. this is off topic, but kris, can i get some stickers with my exhaust please??:)

LMBmikeZ 12-03-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 1434291)
im looking at buying the body kit from him.

gotcha! :tup:

I think it would sick with that setup you have!

jazz 12-03-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 1434103)
I guess Japanese people really know how to make a pre-owned product look like a brand new product, EH? :roflpuke2: :tup:

Back in 2010 April, I paid exact MSRP listed on webamuse.co.jp and Amuse introduced me to an exporter who probably got 20~30% discount from amuse and he charged me roughly around $100 for air shipping.
didn't even charge me extra $150 bucks for "gold ring" option :happydance:
forgot to mention, I initially ordered different color combination and changed a day after. They did not have A problem making sure my order gets to Vancouver airport in estimated time from my initial contact to them (2 weeks).

You guys make customers wait for like 6 months, take all orders from people saying "this exclusive product from the land of rising sun........... takes 3 month to 6 months to produce". Isn't it more like bundling as many orders as possible during that period of time to reach deeper level of discount and then ship it by choosing cheapest shipping method which is mass shipping my container?? :roflpuke2:

All I'm trying to do here is to acknowledge consumers.

and I'm not going to shut up about it this time.

When I got the exhaust almost 2 years ago and posted review on the forum, you pm'd me telling me to take it off, because it affects your business.

Keep stealing money from people like that :roflpuke2:

agreed!


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