Radar Detector in Ontario?

Brutal 370Z · 07-07-2011, 09:44 AM

hey guys, I was thinking about maybe ordering a radar detector. what is your take on having one in Ontario. Does anyone have one? Do you find it useful? If so, can it be hidden from view (maybe under the steering column) and still be effective?

Dizzy · 07-07-2011, 10:09 AM

They are good, but portables need to be line of sight.

Best advice for a RD in a province where they are illegal is to have 2. Get a good one, and buy a used cheapy one of Ebay. That way, if you're ever pulled over because you were spotted or detected having one, you had over the cheapy one and suck up the $170 fine (minimum) and 3 demerits.

Get caught a second time and your fine will be a lot more!

I know a few people that use them and so far, they haven't been nabbed. If you spend enough, you can get the undetectable detectors that you can get out of sight in plenty of time for a typical radar trap. Then, you only have to worry about the extreme possibility of a cop pulling up behind you and pulsing his detector which immediately causes you to reach for yours mounted on a window.

These days, having them visible isn't as much of a worry because of the amount of other devices it could be (GPS, Satalite radio reciever, hands free etc).

Brutal 370Z · 07-07-2011, 10:19 AM

do you think its worth the risk? I've only had one speeding ticket. It was on Britania near queen street. You know how the speed limit goes from 70 to 50 within 100m? cops are always there. It would just be nice to have on the 407 so I could open her up with little fear.

I agree that having it in the windsheild wouldn't cause suspicion considering all other types of window-mounted devices.

I'm also contemplating whether or not its worth the cost. A good, undetectable one is probably going to be $700+ considering its going to have to be brought in from the states.

LMBmikeZ · 07-07-2011, 12:29 PM

I'm in the same boat. Considering getting one!

I think it would be worth it though. Cause u get away with one 50 over ticket by detecting their radar then you would already have saved the difference!

Brutal 370Z · 07-07-2011, 01:33 PM

lol that's one way to look at it.

DjSquall · 07-07-2011, 02:30 PM

Cops are switching to laser detection now too. Those are impossible to dodge.

Brutal 370Z · 07-07-2011, 02:34 PM

sh**! really eh? I didn't know that. So maybe its not even worth getting.

Da.Menace · 07-07-2011, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall

Cops are switching to laser detection now too. Those are impossible to dodge.

If you're referring to their LIDAR, it can still be beat.

Brutal 370Z · 07-07-2011, 03:07 PM

which unit is capable of beating it?

DjSquall · 07-07-2011, 04:35 PM

You can't beat a laser, just regular radars. As soon as you're in line if sight, the laser gets your speed. But there are detectors that do both, and I know of someone that has it. It's helped him several times, once a cop pulled him over and actually congratulated him on "quick reflex" and let him go with just a 10 over, I believe it was supposed to be a 30 or something like that.

It's worth the money if you're big on speeding. But i would recommend you slow down instead, spend $200 on an oil cooler & go to the track.

Brutal 370Z · 07-07-2011, 04:39 PM

Ever since that 50-over law, I haven't been driving too aggressively at all. I guess I'll just keep it that way. the occasional on-ramp should be enough to satisfy my need for speed. maybe hit up the track a couple times here and there.

Da.Menace · 07-07-2011, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall

You can't beat a laser, just regular radars. As soon as you're in line if sight, the laser gets your speed. But there are detectors that do both, and I know of someone that has it. It's helped him several times, once a cop pulled him over and actually congratulated him on "quick reflex" and let him go with just a 10 over, I believe it was supposed to be a 30 or something like that.

It's worth the money if you're big on speeding. But i would recommend you slow down instead, spend $200 on an oil cooler & go to the track.

Sorry buddy but I gotta correct you here.

Radar detectors and Laser Jammers are 2 different things. Lasers can be jammed by dispersing the laser beam with an interruption field. It doesn't matter if you're in the laser's line of sight. Police usually targets the front bumper/grille of the car with their Laser LIDAR, and the laser jammers are usually installed inside the grille, which causes the LIDAR unable to obtain a target.

Quick google search
Antilaser G9 - Best Laser Jammers Canada - KMPH.ca

Youtube video sample
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltSR7...layer_embedded

Beltronics and Escort Passport are the two brands that I could recall which makes laser Jammers. There are more brands that makes them but I forgot what they're called.

Please note that I am not endorsing one to buy/install one. I am merely providing some facts.

Sibze · 07-07-2011, 07:05 PM

Is it not also true that Jammers can be detected where detectors cannot?

Da.Menace · 07-07-2011, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze

Is it not also true that Jammers can be detected where detectors cannot?

Correct. Jammers can be detected because they are unable to detect your speed with their laser radar.

DjSquall · 07-07-2011, 10:06 PM

I actually didn't know that :S the one my friend has just fires off a warning for laser, it doesn't actually jam it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da.Menace

Sorry buddy but I gotta correct you here.

Radar detectors and Laser Jammers are 2 different things. Lasers can be jammed by dispersing the laser beam with an interruption field. It doesn't matter if you're in the laser's line of sight. Police usually targets the front bumper/grille of the car with their Laser LIDAR, and the laser jammers are usually installed inside the grille, which causes the LIDAR unable to obtain a target.

Quick google search
Antilaser G9 - Best Laser Jammers Canada - KMPH.ca

Youtube video sample
YouTube - ‪Laser Pro Park (LPP) on Hyundai vs Pro Laser III‬&rlm;

Beltronics and Escort Passport are the two brands that I could recall which makes laser Jammers. There are more brands that makes them but I forgot what they're called.

Please note that I am not endorsing one to buy/install one. I am merely providing some facts.

07-07-2011, 09:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	Radar Detector in Ontario? hey guys, I was thinking about maybe ordering a radar detector. what is your take on having one in Ontario. Does anyone have one? Do you find it useful? If so, can it be hidden from view (maybe under the steering column) and still be effective? __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

07-07-2011, 10:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dizzy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Milton, On Posts: 234 Drives: 10 HW 6MT SPT/NAV Rep Power: 15	They are good, but portables need to be line of sight. Best advice for a RD in a province where they are illegal is to have 2. Get a good one, and buy a used cheapy one of Ebay. That way, if you're ever pulled over because you were spotted or detected having one, you had over the cheapy one and suck up the $170 fine (minimum) and 3 demerits. Get caught a second time and your fine will be a lot more! I know a few people that use them and so far, they haven't been nabbed. If you spend enough, you can get the undetectable detectors that you can get out of sight in plenty of time for a typical radar trap. Then, you only have to worry about the extreme possibility of a cop pulling up behind you and pulsing his detector which immediately causes you to reach for yours mounted on a window. These days, having them visible isn't as much of a worry because of the amount of other devices it could be (GPS, Satalite radio reciever, hands free etc). __________________

07-07-2011, 10:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	do you think its worth the risk? I've only had one speeding ticket. It was on Britania near queen street. You know how the speed limit goes from 70 to 50 within 100m? cops are always there. It would just be nice to have on the 407 so I could open her up with little fear. I agree that having it in the windsheild wouldn't cause suspicion considering all other types of window-mounted devices. I'm also contemplating whether or not its worth the cost. A good, undetectable one is probably going to be $700+ considering its going to have to be brought in from the states. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

07-07-2011, 01:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	lol that's one way to look at it. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

07-07-2011, 02:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	sh**! really eh? I didn't know that. So maybe its not even worth getting. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

07-07-2011, 12:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
LMBmikeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,237 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 10350	I'm in the same boat. Considering getting one! I think it would be worth it though. Cause u get away with one 50 over ticket by detecting their radar then you would already have saved the difference!

07-07-2011, 02:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
DjSquall A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tottenham, ON Age: 36 Posts: 1,340 Drives: My first car Rep Power: 22	Cops are switching to laser detection now too. Those are impossible to dodge.

07-07-2011, 03:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	which unit is capable of beating it? __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

07-07-2011, 04:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
DjSquall A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tottenham, ON Age: 36 Posts: 1,340 Drives: My first car Rep Power: 22	You can't beat a laser, just regular radars. As soon as you're in line if sight, the laser gets your speed. But there are detectors that do both, and I know of someone that has it. It's helped him several times, once a cop pulled him over and actually congratulated him on "quick reflex" and let him go with just a 10 over, I believe it was supposed to be a 30 or something like that. It's worth the money if you're big on speeding. But i would recommend you slow down instead, spend $200 on an oil cooler & go to the track.

07-07-2011, 04:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	Ever since that 50-over law, I haven't been driving too aggressively at all. I guess I'll just keep it that way. the occasional on-ramp should be enough to satisfy my need for speed. maybe hit up the track a couple times here and there. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

07-07-2011, 07:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 63	Is it not also true that Jammers can be detected where detectors cannot? __________________ RIP Tony.

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