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Zolfix 03-16-2010 08:45 PM

Would you buy a new 370z that has been in a minor accident?
 
The dealer around here has a brand new (just 20km) fully loaded 6mt 2010 370z that has been in a minor accident. After 1.5h of negotiating I got them down to 500 under invoice + a full set of nice aftermarket rims (~2.5k)

On the accident:

The dealership's employee crashed the car. He did a 180, hit a curb (major curb rash on original wheels, hence aftermarket wheels), and hit something stationary with his rear bumper. The bumper itself suffered a major dent and apparently a few parts behind the bumper were also damaged. The dealership claims that absolutely everything that even had a scratch on it, has been entirely replaced. Nothing was "repaired" or repainted. No metal has been damaged at all, only plastic parts and only bolt ons, which were all replaced.

I saw a lot of pictures of the car after the accident and it did not look so bad. They even showed me their full repair bill and it was 4.5k. They claim that since it is a new car, if anything at all were to go wrong then it would be fixed under warranty. I intend to pay for extended full 7 year warranty as well.

This accident was not recorded at all and does not show up on carfax.

If I were to go for an accident free new car, it would cost me 2.5k more and no aftermarket rims.

Would you do it? If so, would you pay for a third party inspection? I need to decide in the next 24h...

Thanks!

Snakes709 03-16-2010 08:48 PM

I would request to see the car in person with the bumper off and see for yourself that everything was replaced. If they allow that and it checks out i would buy it.

sinceday1 03-16-2010 08:53 PM

Personal preference.
Honestly, if nothing shows up in carfax and if the damage was really minor, i dont see whynot..

Make sure to check if there's anything wrong INSIDE the bumper. Tell'em to take off the rear bumper, and also check if there's anything wrong with the drivetrain as well!

(BTW WTF was the employee thinking or doing to cause the car to do 180 =.=)

sinceday1 03-16-2010 08:54 PM

BTW what kind of rims are on it?

Also, see if you get get your hands on the undamaged stock wheels. :)

Snakes709 03-16-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinceday1 (Post 449789)
Personal preference.
Honestly, if nothing shows up in carfax and if the damage was really minor, i dont see whynot..

Make sure to check if there's anything wrong INSIDE the bumper. Tell'em to take off the rear bumper, and also check if there's anything wrong with the drivetrain as well!

(BTW WTF was the employee thinking or doing to cause the car to do 180 =.=)

Good question, i missed that. Which makes me rethink my answer. When my sales guy took me for a test drive he drove first and he burnt the **** out of the clutch. During the 30mins or so i was driving thats all i could smell cuz of him, which made me think "if i buy a 370z, it wont be this one"

Which brings me to my point...if a employee was pushing the car that hard at 20km on the clock...what else was done in that 20km..thats not exactly a good break in.

dad 03-16-2010 09:01 PM

Buy a car, that was in a wreck, from a dealer.....No Way!
Plus their is no Car-fax record, nor a record of the accident. Your about to get shysted!

Lemers 03-16-2010 09:05 PM

I wouldn't do it. People buy new cars for piece of mind that there is nothing wrong. And that 2.5k paid over 48 to 60 months isn't that much in monthly payments

Zolfix 03-16-2010 09:08 PM

There is a full record of the accident and the damages. 20-30 pictures which they showed me. They showed internal pictures as well, but I am not a mechanic so I can not judge the extent of the damage. This was just kept within the dealership.

And I doubt they treat different Zs differently so if it was abused in the first 20km then I bet a lot of Zs are the same...

What could go wrong? I mean, if there is something wrong with the tranny then it will get replaced under warranty, right?

frost 03-16-2010 09:11 PM

I would, for a better deal than that. 500 under invoice is about what I paid for mine minus the accident :P

Nikon FM 03-16-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zolfix (Post 449765)
The dealer around here has a brand new (just 20km) fully loaded 6mt 2010 370z that has been in a minor accident. After 1.5h of negotiating I got them down to 500 under invoice + a full set of nice aftermarket rims (~2.5k)

On the accident:

The dealership's employee crashed the car. He did a 180, hit a curb (major curb rash on original wheels, hence aftermarket wheels), and hit something stationary with his rear bumper. The bumper itself suffered a major dent and apparently a few parts behind the bumper were also damaged. The dealership claims that absolutely everything that even had a scratch on it, has been entirely replaced. Nothing was "repaired" or repainted. No metal has been damaged at all, only plastic parts and only bolt ons, which were all replaced.

I saw a lot of pictures of the car after the accident and it did not look so bad. They even showed me their full repair bill and it was 4.5k. They claim that since it is a new car, if anything at all were to go wrong then it would be fixed under warranty. I intend to pay for extended full 7 year warranty as well.

This accident was not recorded at all and does not show up on carfax.

If I were to go for an accident free new car, it would cost me 2.5k more and no aftermarket rims.

Would you do it? If so, would you pay for a third party inspection? I need to decide in the next 24h...

Thanks!


Possibly would buy, but only if they paid for a second party inspection by your choice in addition to the price reduction. If they showed you a $4.5k repair bill I would guess that their cost wasn't even close to that. The inspection should take the engine/power train and suspension into consideration.

I believe a better option is to just buy a new one that is clean (from another dealership that does not beat their cars) and feel that much better about the purchase.

Snakes709 03-16-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 449861)
I would, for a better deal than that. 500 under invoice is about what I paid for mine minus the accident :P

True that, i got my dealership to lower the cost of my Z by almost $10,000...just the damn taxes and interest raise it back up..lol. $500 even without a accident on the car isnt a good deal. Now that i thought about it, i wouldnt accept the deal, however if u have your heart set on it, this is what you should tell them and not settle for less.


-They pay for aftermarket rims
-$5,000 or more price drop
-Inspection at a shop of your choice (they pay the bill)
-First oil change for free

They will accept, if they dont, they wont make money. You buying a car pay's their salary so they want that car sold.

ChrisSlicks 03-16-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 449861)
I would, for a better deal than that. 500 under invoice is about what I paid for mine minus the accident :P

:iagree:

Tell them no, and then see what back pedaling they do. At least $2K under invoice.

I would be concerned about hidden damage to the differential, axle, drive-shaft and transmission. Warranty doesn't guarantee coverage because the damage was caused by abuse. Not your abuse, but they don't care!

Zolfix 03-16-2010 09:22 PM

I've been to every dealer in my city (ottawa) and the best I can get is $2k over invoice. This is the ONLY 'new' 370z coupe in the entire city.

I could probably get them to pay for third party inspection by a mechanic which I trust (I know a guy). They seem extremely confident that the car is good as new.

frost 03-16-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zolfix (Post 449891)
I've been to every dealer in my city (ottawa) and the best I can get is $2k over invoice. This is the ONLY 'new' 370z coupe in the entire city.

I could probably get them to pay for third party inspection by a mechanic which I trust (I know a guy). They seem extremely confident that the car is good as new.

Must be a thing with your area, because they are throwing these things at us here.

Xan 03-16-2010 09:24 PM

Not worth it to me, all you get is some rims now and potential problem for the next years...


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