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Old 04-05-2016, 07:05 PM   #61 (permalink)
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as for the CSC fix check this out, most have gone this route to fix. Part is $325usd + bottle of fluid + instal (unless you can DIY)

ZSpeed Performance Replacement HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit
The above has made me think of something.

Considering how many manuals have the CSC problem, maybe used manuals with the Zspeed already on board are common. I'm thinking that if someone is selling a used sport manual in fantastic condition at a price close to that of the new base, and it already has the Zspeed, I might once again consider a manual. Maybe I can browbeat my wife into trying out a vehicle that has the rev-match feature. If shifting is as smooth as it is reported to be, just maybe she'd go for it.

Is the Zspeed slave (plus a new master cylinder for the clutch) a "one and done" solution? That is, does it last forever? Is that an external bleed line I see on the below photo (where the red arrow is pointing)?

Does having rev-match extend the life of a clutch plate? I imagine that it would.

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The short answer is yes. One and done!



But you have to remember like anything mechanical it has a life span and that too will eventually wear out. but we are talking many years and lots of mileage

IMO do what I did buy the car and don't worry about it, if and when it fails replace it. Or if your that paranoid and want to spend the $$ instal the parts once you buy the Z

Also go drive a used sport MT you will not be disappointed I promise you!
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The above has made me think of something.

Considering how many manuals have the CSC problem, maybe used manuals with the Zspeed already on board are common. I'm thinking that if someone is selling a used sport manual in fantastic condition at a price close to that of the new base, and it already has the Zspeed, I might once again consider a manual. Maybe I can browbeat my wife into trying out a vehicle that has the rev-match feature. If shifting is as smooth as it is reported to be, just maybe she'd go for it.

Is the Zspeed slave (plus a new master cylinder for the clutch) a "one and done" solution? That is, does it last forever? Is that an external bleed line I see on the below photo (where the red arrow is pointing)?

Does having rev-match extend the life of a clutch plate? I imagine that it would.

Thanks.
there is a specific brand of the after market clutch that will destroy your zspeed slave. I can't remember it off the top of my head but the zspeed will be fine with your stock clutch.

as LMB said you have 2 routes. wait til it fails or just do it. I took the later since I like to go on road trips.

definitely try the SRM mode with the manual. you'll be amazed how awesome it is on the down shifts. ie @60 clicks drop from 3rd to 2nd and listen to the music
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there is a specific brand of the after market clutch that will destroy your zspeed slave. I can't remember it off the top of my head but the zspeed will be fine with your stock clutch.

as LMB said you have 2 routes. wait til it fails or just do it. I took the later since I like to go on road trips.

definitely try the SRM mode with the manual. you'll be amazed how awesome it is on the down shifts. ie @60 clicks drop from 3rd to 2nd and listen to the music
If we look at a vehicle that already has the Zspeed, I'll definitely ask if the clutch is OEM. If it isn't, before doing anything, I'll come back here and ask.

Depending on the asking price of the vehicle, I suppose we could add on the cost of the Zspeed and see if it makes financial sense to go further. I understand that Nissan might even be willing to do the job of installing it rather than their own part. If the slave problem is as extensive as it seems, maybe they've got a NASCAR pit crew all trained up to do the job in an hour...............while blindfolded. I can give a local Nissan dealer and other shops a call to get an estimate for the job, including new master cylinder.

If the OEM slave is certainly going to leak at some point down the road, I would think that installing the Zspeed before the slave starts leaking might make more sense in case the fluid ruins the clutch plate, no?

As I said much earlier in this thread, I am intrigued by the rev match feature. How does whatever computer that controls SRM "know" what gear you're going to shift into? It can't. So it must have to wait until you actually put the gear lever into a particular gear's slot and only then, even before you are able to lift the clutch, increase or decrease engine (flywheel) rpm to match that of the clutch plate.

If so, this is quite a trick, because it doesn't take long for that left foot to come up when you're going for broke. The SRM computer must have continuous, instantaneous control of engine RPM at all times (at least when the clutch pedal is going down), regardless of how your foot has adjusted the accelerator pedal, correct?

So, AFTER the rpm-synchronized plate and flywheel have come together, does the position of accelerator pedal instantly take/regain control of engine throttle/rpm? That is, say you lift your foot completely off the accelerator after you depress the clutch. What happens if you then make a gear change and you lift up the clutch? Does the computer still synchronize engine rpm for the mating, regardless of accelerator position, but then, after the mating, instantly allow the accelerator position to take control of the throttle/engine rpm?

BTW, is SRM something that is always on until you turn if off, or is it always off until you turn it on?

Thanks.

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If we look at a vehicle that already has the Zspeed, I'll definitely ask if the clutch is OEM. If it isn't, before doing anything, I'll come back here and ask.

Depending on the asking price of the vehicle, I suppose we could add on the cost of the Zspeed and see if it makes financial sense to go further. I understand that Nissan might even be willing to do the job of installing it rather than their own part. If the slave problem is as extensive as it seems, maybe they've got a NASCAR pit crew all trained up to do the job in an hour...............while blindfolded. I can give a local Nissan dealer and other shops a call to get an estimate for the job, including new master cylinder.

If the OEM slave is certainly going to leak at some point down the road, I would think that installing the Zspeed before the slave starts leaking might make more sense in case the fluid ruins the clutch plate, no?

As I said much earlier in this thread, I am intrigued by the rev match feature. How does whatever computer that controls SRM "know" what gear you're going to shift into? It can't. So it must have to wait until you actually put the gear lever into a particular gear's slot and only then, even before you are able to lift the clutch, increase or decrease engine (flywheel) rpm to match that of the clutch plate.

If so, this is quite a trick, because it doesn't take long for that left foot to come up when you're going for broke. The SRM computer must have continuous, instantaneous control of engine RPM at all times (at least when the clutch pedal is going down), regardless of how your foot has adjusted the accelerator pedal, correct?

So, AFTER the rpm-synchronized plate and flywheel have come together, does the position of accelerator pedal instantly take/regain control of engine throttle/rpm? That is, say you lift your foot completely off the accelerator after you depress the clutch. What happens if you then make a gear change and you lift up the clutch? Does the computer still synchronize engine rpm for the mating, regardless of accelerator position, but then, after the mating, instantly allow the accelerator position to take control of the throttle/engine rpm?

BTW, is SRM something that is always on until you turn if off, or is it always off until you turn it on?

Thanks.
for the SRM.. uhh... drive it. lol you can clutch gas off downshift (srm kicks in as you enter the gear positiong gate) and clutch off. tada!
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My wife and I are on the verge of buying a 2014 7AT Sport Touring. In short, the thing looks and performs/handles like new with less than 10K kms. It has a clean CarProof with absolutely nothing suspicious. All fluids look good. Tires are all worn perfectly evenly.

I have just a few questions.

Is there anything in particular I should know about the 2014 model year, such as recalls, known mechanical or electronic issues, etc.?

As much as I think it unnecessary, I'm going to pay Nissan to do a pre-purchase inspection. (What I fear most all is that Nissan is going to scratch something as they drive it into or out of the bay, because I've had this happen before with our Outlander and the Lexus we sold three years ago.) Assuming that they don't damage the vehicle themselves, is Nissan going to discover whether or not the vehicle has ever been driven hard or, heaven forbid, run over a curb or something? If they connect their diagnostic software, can they tell the fastest the vehicle has ever been driven?

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My wife and I are on the verge of buying a 2014 7AT Sport Touring. In short, the thing looks and performs/handles like new with less than 10K kms. It has a clean CarProof with absolutely nothing suspicious. All fluids look good. Tires are all worn perfectly evenly.

I have just a few questions.

Is there anything in particular I should know about the 2014 model year, such as recalls, known mechanical or electronic issues, etc.?

As much as I think it unnecessary, I'm going to pay Nissan to do a pre-purchase inspection. (What I fear most all is that Nissan is going to scratch something as they drive it into or out of the bay, because I've had this happen before with our Outlander and the Lexus we sold three years ago.) Assuming that they don't damage the vehicle themselves, is Nissan going to discover whether or not the vehicle has ever been driven hard or, heaven forbid, run over a curb or something? If they connect their diagnostic software, can they tell the fastest the vehicle has ever been driven?

Thanks.
not to my knowledge you can tell fastest speeds ever driven. but why worry about that? the car is a sports car. in terms of wear and tear check how close the rears are to the wear bar. if it's 10k km it should still have a decent amount of rubber left on the rear. fronts should be significantly more (unless they tracked the car which would cause fronts to be worn down too). have them check the obd reader if it throws any codes out. check how much life is still left in the pads.


personally if you have a private shop I would get the inspection/second opinion from them over a dealership.
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not to my knowledge you can tell fastest speeds ever driven. but why worry about that? the car is a sports car. in terms of wear and tear check how close the rears are to the wear bar. if it's 10k km it should still have a decent amount of rubber left on the rear. fronts should be significantly more (unless they tracked the car which would cause fronts to be worn down too). have them check the obd reader if it throws any codes out. check how much life is still left in the pads.


personally if you have a private shop I would get the inspection/second opinion from them over a dealership.
Thanks.

It's the 370Z-specific problems that I'm concerned about, and it seems that there are not many..........at least in the AT.

Can the OBD of the Z be read/adjusted in its entirety by non-Nissan-specific OBD software, or is it the same old proprietary situation?

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It's the 370Z-specific problems that I'm concerned about, and it seems that there are not many..........at least in the AT.

Can the OBD of the Z be read/adjusted in its entirety by non-Nissan-specific OBD software, or is it the same old proprietary situation?

Thanks again.
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I get giddy at the prospect of having a like-new Z sitting at the ready in our large garage. The Z will occupy the area where the two bicycles are at present. Because of the vehicle's fantastic backup cam with those infinitely-variable curving lines, I plan on backing the vehicle into the garage, as close as possible to the wall with the window blinds. (Can you tell that I have long legs?)

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We bought the vehicle. The first thing I did was give it a really thorough hand wash and a laborious coat of Collinite paste wax.

The vehicle was originally sold in July of '14, so the bumper to bumper warranty is good until the end of July next year and the powertrain years beyond.

I was able to examine the underside of the vehicle while it was undergoing the pre-purchase inspection at Mills Nissan. Like new, but, naturally, just a bit dusty.

Frost interior, navigation, 3M, etc.

My wife and I gave rides to several family members yesterday and they were impressed. Our daughter drove it and was wowed, although she would prefer manual.

We're very happy with our Z. Because of its fantastic automatic, my wife actually likes it as much as I do. It irony is that I feel inhibited to drive the vehicle the way and where it should be driven. That is, I just want to take it for short, easy drives in perfect weather -- which we've actually had in Edmonton recently.

Nice to have a Z and be a member of this great forum.
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Congrats!

and good choice on the sports model. looks a lot nicer with the rims, lsd, spoiler and bigger brakes!
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Good stuff DC! That is one sweet ride. Enjoy!
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and good choice on the sports model. looks a lot nicer with the rims, lsd, spoiler and bigger brakes!
and you won't be disappointed with the extra features the sport offers...... however with out this items it's just not the same car
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