2017 370z

Magicd

I don't know what the CBB for a 2012 with sport package is listed at. If the CBB is all of Canada, not sure how accurate it is anyways. 370z's are cheaper in Quebec, so that would lower the average, but they might be more in other places.
End of the day I did my research and am very happy with what I paid.
I think someone said you are in Alberta - they might have some good deals in Calgary due to the oil prices.
My thinking is set your budget, find the newest model with what you want in that budget. If its new then great, these cars don't depreciate as fast as other cars, although that may change when the 370z replacement comes out with 400hp. I personally would not buy new unless it was to get options/specs that are very specific to myself. But with 370z's there aren't many choices.
Have you thought of a convertible? I had a S2000 before my 370z and it was a blast going for a nice drive in the wine region/country etc.
Prices seem to be going up, I assume with warmer weather around the corner more people want to buy
What's it cost to fix the slave cylinder?

LMBmikeZ

Good on you guys and researching what you are buying

I did the same when getting my 40th. I had debated on bringing up a USA Nismo in 2010 (nismo not available in Canada 2010) or getting the Canadian 40th anniversary which comes fully loaded! (the USA 40th has less options - off topic lol )



as for the CSC fix check this out, most have gone this route to fix. Part is $325usd + bottle of fluid + instal (unless you can DIY)

ZSpeed Performance Replacement HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit


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Darwins Child

The above has made me think of something.

Considering how many manuals have the CSC problem, maybe used manuals with the Zspeed already on board are common. I'm thinking that if someone is selling a used sport manual in fantastic condition at a price close to that of the new base, and it already has the Zspeed, I might once again consider a manual. Maybe I can browbeat my wife into trying out a vehicle that has the rev-match feature. If shifting is as smooth as it is reported to be, just maybe she'd go for it.

Is the Zspeed slave (plus a new master cylinder for the clutch) a "one and done" solution? That is, does it last forever? Is that an external bleed line I see on the below photo (where the red arrow is pointing)?

Does having rev-match extend the life of a clutch plate? I imagine that it would.

Thanks.

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mishuko

there is a specific brand of the after market clutch that will destroy your zspeed slave. I can't remember it off the top of my head but the zspeed will be fine with your stock clutch.

as LMB said you have 2 routes. wait til it fails or just do it. I took the later since I like to go on road trips.

definitely try the SRM mode with the manual. you'll be amazed how awesome it is on the down shifts. ie @60 clicks drop from 3rd to 2nd and listen to the music

Darwins Child

If we look at a vehicle that already has the Zspeed, I'll definitely ask if the clutch is OEM. If it isn't, before doing anything, I'll come back here and ask.

Depending on the asking price of the vehicle, I suppose we could add on the cost of the Zspeed and see if it makes financial sense to go further. I understand that Nissan might even be willing to do the job of installing it rather than their own part. If the slave problem is as extensive as it seems, maybe they've got a NASCAR pit crew all trained up to do the job in an hour...............while blindfolded. I can give a local Nissan dealer and other shops a call to get an estimate for the job, including new master cylinder.

If the OEM slave is certainly going to leak at some point down the road, I would think that installing the Zspeed before the slave starts leaking might make more sense in case the fluid ruins the clutch plate, no?

As I said much earlier in this thread, I am intrigued by the rev match feature. How does whatever computer that controls SRM "know" what gear you're going to shift into? It can't. So it must have to wait until you actually put the gear lever into a particular gear's slot and only then, even before you are able to lift the clutch, increase or decrease engine (flywheel) rpm to match that of the clutch plate.

If so, this is quite a trick, because it doesn't take long for that left foot to come up when you're going for broke. The SRM computer must have continuous, instantaneous control of engine RPM at all times (at least when the clutch pedal is going down), regardless of how your foot has adjusted the accelerator pedal, correct?

So, AFTER the rpm-synchronized plate and flywheel have come together, does the position of accelerator pedal instantly take/regain control of engine throttle/rpm? That is, say you lift your foot completely off the accelerator after you depress the clutch. What happens if you then make a gear change and you lift up the clutch? Does the computer still synchronize engine rpm for the mating, regardless of accelerator position, but then, after the mating, instantly allow the accelerator position to take control of the throttle/engine rpm?

BTW, is SRM something that is always on until you turn if off, or is it always off until you turn it on?

Thanks.

mishuko

for the SRM.. uhh... drive it. lol you can clutch gas off downshift (srm kicks in as you enter the gear positiong gate) and clutch off. tada!

Darwins Child

You make some good points.

Although Alberta's economy is in the tank and the unemployment rate is high, so far anyway used vehicle asking prices -- both dealerships' and private owners' -- are IMO still quite high. What these owners are actually willing to sell for may be another matter. (I hate negotiating, but there is no way around it.) However, I have noticed that Edmonton dealerships' lots are full to the nuts with new and used vehicles. There are also lots of local used Zs available from private sellers. This may be an impact from the economic situation. You never know the real reason why a private person is selling their vehicle, but no seller is ever going to announce that it's because their economic situation has deteriorated for one reason or another. However, if a seller pointedly says right off the bat that "I don't really care if I sell it", I take note.

I understand that Alberta's and BC's used vehicles are priced higher because their winter environments are better than Quebec's, where salt is used extensively. I guess the same might hold for Ontario, but Ontario owners should comment on that. But this would probably apply less to the Z, which many owners drive only in summer.

I have done further investigation of the sport package and it is something I now want in a used vehicle. The nav and sport package originally added considerably to the cost of the new vehicle. I am now almost certain that the '10 we just looked at had the sport package because of the wheels, brakes and spoilers.

While doing some research on the 370Z Roadster, I stumbled on the following thread.
How is your top
In short, we're going to stick with a coupe. But speaking of convertibles ........ you know which vehicle had the perfect convertible top, IMO? The C5 Corvette.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM75yRsGe04
You can easily and inexpensively replace just about anything on it. If the Roadster had the C5's bone simple manual design (and why not?), we'd seriously consider one.

Someone who has had their slave cylinder "fixed" will have to say what the typical cost is, but if my understanding that the transmission has to be dropped to replace it is correct, it is going to be .