2017 370z

LMBmikeZ

Can only speak about '10s, the lines curve with the steering.


When doing the 09 and '10 reverse cam upgrade they are two different units/setups needed. I'm sure you saw this in your search.

I have the complete setup from the car kit company (if typed all one word .com should come up)

www.thecarkitcompany.com

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Darwins Child

Thanks!

Zat_Zuma

Yup its his money and its his opinion that matters to him.

I just know when to not waste my time and have the ability to find/source out my own answers and don't have to be spoon feed by trolls.

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[B]2009 & 2017 370Z Touring Sport Autos SOLD

Darwins Child

April 1:
April 3:
Was the exit door stuck, or have you dropped in for another time-wasting kick a the cat?

mishuko

Darwin, if you were looking at 2010 models I'd also suggest looking at other used models with the sport + touring package as they should be similar in price to a brand new base.

you get the better goodies... just a thought

Darwins Child

I'll keep that in mind. Right now I'm looking at all auto Zs that come up for sale in the base's price area.

Do members here feel that the Canadian Black Book (CBB) reflects market reality? It seems to me that in the Edmonton/Calgary market, average asking prices in Kijiji or AutoTrader are far higher than the average asking price stated in CBB. Some of the asking prices are downright ridiculous -- for example, asking $3K more for a loaded '14 used car than the price of a loaded, brand new '14 leftover.

Anybody else have that impression? Maybe it's just because of the time of year and Alberta's early, summer-like weather.

While I'm typing, do you think that, year for year, automatics are more or less desirable than manuals? I'm just wondering how difficult it is for owners of automatics to sell them, and how this situation might be used to our advantage during negotiation. I ask because there are far more manuals than automatics on the used market. In today's Kijiji, for example, the ratio of manuals to autos is about 2:1. Another reason I ask is because the new leftovers tend to be autos. I'm guessing this is the case because twice as many new manuals are sold than automatics, but why? Is it because people want a manual in a sports car, or is it because the autos are so much more expensive when new (for new Canadian automatics, anyway)?

Here's a good example of what I'm talking about:
2013 Nissan 370Z Stillen Supercharged | used cars & trucks | Edmonton | Kijiji
I know that this amazing automatic vehicle has been for sale for quite some time because I've been looking at 370Z ads for months. Because we were taking a trip to that part of town anyway, my wife allowed us to stop in to see the vehicle. In short, I was wowed by the thing, but it's out of "our" (my wife's) price range. (As I was test driving the base coupe, I could not help but imagine what it must be like to drive a 400-whp paddle-shifter.) But for the long list of stuff that is in that as-new, 17K-km vehicle, I think it is being sold at a very reasonable price, especially considering what a new automatic sells for, or, for that matter, even a used, loaded '13 that has the same kms. So why hasn't that vehicle sold? I believe it is probably because it is an automatic.

Magicd

Here in Toronto/GTA Automatics are cheaper when used, I think like you said no one wants them. If you want a fun sports car for the summer - get manual.
All joking aside get what you want, but for resale value and enjoyment get manual. (if the wife doesn't know how to drive manual for $200-300 buy her lessons, everybody that drives manual had to learn)
If you haven't driven one with the sport package, do yourself a favour. Its worth the extra money all day long. Man the brakes are amazing on them.
If you are buying used there isn't much price difference with the sport optioned cars.
As why a used 2014/15 is more than a new one left over on the lot - no idea. Maybe they are a celebrity and think their car is worth more than new some how. Or they are hoping a sucker comes by and doesn't do their research like you have. People can ask as much as they want, what they sell the car for is totally different.
I got mine for $3000 less than the guy was asking just a couple weeks ago.

My 2 cents

Darwins Child

Thanks for your input.

My wife already knows how to drive a manual quite well, but for some reason insists upon an auto, and believe me, I've worked on her. But the other better reason that I no longer want a manual is the slave cylinder issue which I very recently learned about. I don't have any strong feeling about either transmission, but I definitely do not want too deal with that slave issue, so auto it will be. Good to hear they're generally less desirable than the manuals.

I'm going to go out on a short limb and assume that the vehicle you just bought is the '12 that is in your info under your username, and that it is also a manual. You say that you got the vehicle for $3000 less than asking. Was the asking price close to the CBB average asking price?

Again, I'll keep the sport-optioned vehicles firmly in mind.

Thanks.

Magicd

I don't know what the CBB for a 2012 with sport package is listed at. If the CBB is all of Canada, not sure how accurate it is anyways. 370z's are cheaper in Quebec, so that would lower the average, but they might be more in other places.
End of the day I did my research and am very happy with what I paid.
I think someone said you are in Alberta - they might have some good deals in Calgary due to the oil prices.
My thinking is set your budget, find the newest model with what you want in that budget. If its new then great, these cars don't depreciate as fast as other cars, although that may change when the 370z replacement comes out with 400hp. I personally would not buy new unless it was to get options/specs that are very specific to myself. But with 370z's there aren't many choices.
Have you thought of a convertible? I had a S2000 before my 370z and it was a blast going for a nice drive in the wine region/country etc.
Prices seem to be going up, I assume with warmer weather around the corner more people want to buy
What's it cost to fix the slave cylinder?

LMBmikeZ

Good on you guys and researching what you are buying

I did the same when getting my 40th. I had debated on bringing up a USA Nismo in 2010 (nismo not available in Canada 2010) or getting the Canadian 40th anniversary which comes fully loaded! (the USA 40th has less options - off topic lol )



as for the CSC fix check this out, most have gone this route to fix. Part is $325usd + bottle of fluid + instal (unless you can DIY)

ZSpeed Performance Replacement HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit


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Darwins Child

You make some good points.

Although Alberta's economy is in the tank and the unemployment rate is high, so far anyway used vehicle asking prices -- both dealerships' and private owners' -- are IMO still quite high. What these owners are actually willing to sell for may be another matter. (I hate negotiating, but there is no way around it.) However, I have noticed that Edmonton dealerships' lots are full to the nuts with new and used vehicles. There are also lots of local used Zs available from private sellers. This may be an impact from the economic situation. You never know the real reason why a private person is selling their vehicle, but no seller is ever going to announce that it's because their economic situation has deteriorated for one reason or another. However, if a seller pointedly says right off the bat that "I don't really care if I sell it", I take note.

I understand that Alberta's and BC's used vehicles are priced higher because their winter environments are better than Quebec's, where salt is used extensively. I guess the same might hold for Ontario, but Ontario owners should comment on that. But this would probably apply less to the Z, which many owners drive only in summer.

I have done further investigation of the sport package and it is something I now want in a used vehicle. The nav and sport package originally added considerably to the cost of the new vehicle. I am now almost certain that the '10 we just looked at had the sport package because of the wheels, brakes and spoilers.

While doing some research on the 370Z Roadster, I stumbled on the following thread.
How is your top
In short, we're going to stick with a coupe. But speaking of convertibles ........ you know which vehicle had the perfect convertible top, IMO? The C5 Corvette.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM75yRsGe04
You can easily and inexpensively replace just about anything on it. If the Roadster had the C5's bone simple manual design (and why not?), we'd seriously consider one.

Someone who has had their slave cylinder "fixed" will have to say what the typical cost is, but if my understanding that the transmission has to be dropped to replace it is correct, it is going to be .

LMBmikeZ

most Z's are off the road in Ontario for the winter

IMO sports cars need to keep a salt free diet, helps keep them in great shape. lol

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mishuko

i got my car with 15k on the odo for lower than most of the cars currently listed in the GTA in price and mileage. oh and also from a dealer too. the auto's usually went for 1-2k LESS at the time.

weird... apparently they appreciated in price a bit? lol anyways use the CBB as a guide not as hard rule.

if you are getting a manual, check the fluids. the clutch fluid particularly just to make sure it's in good order.

also i did my csc replacement. the ZSPEED HD CSC will not have a warranty unless you change the master at the same time. you're looking at a ~1500 job or so labour + parts in. you will need an OEM CMC, the aftermarket CSC and a bottle of fluid. labor is about a 4-6 hour job iirc.


this is probably a good time to buy a used one. end of the season is also good as people don't want to store them so they'll let them go for cheaper. but since spring is around the corner they may get the spring fever effect lol

a car is a car. YOU can walk away. i did and found a killer deal literally minutes after.

Darwins Child

Thanks for the info about the slave. Hopefully someone will chime in to tell us what a Nissan dealership charges to perform their special magic.

I am a firm believer in spring fever because I'm experiencing it as I type. I can't get that base-model test drive out of my head.

You last paragraph is exactly right. That is my experience, too. It never hurts to wait, especially when it comes to buying vehicles which will all eventually end up in salvage-yard heaven.

mishuko

90st a good standing member in this community has well over 200k miles on his car. literally the belts / fuel pumps / clutch were the only major issues. then again belts are part of regular maintenance. the clutch is technically a less than regular maintenance item just the slave is a piece of crap.

the Z is probably 1 of a kind in this current market. it's a mix between a sports car and muscle sized engine (albeit smaller) so it is a bit raw n rough. that's what I appreciate about the car.

keep looking. you will find something.