2017 370z

LMBmikeZ

you can fit a lot but it's not intended to be cargo friendly. Can fit a set of golf clubs nicely. Other then that don't think they planned much further then that lol.


Funny you say that. It sounds like the exact same type of people I am referring to lol. For them having a Beamer is all about the status symbol though they could car less how beautiful of a machine it is. They just want that Gucci or Prada??? To say hey look at me. Not saying bmw are my fovorite or anything, hell some are total POS and I would never buy but some are gorgeous!

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Darwins Child

My wife and I took that red base for a test drive. I was wowed by the overall performance. Acceleration is neck-snapping fantastic and so is handling. I don't need any more than what this 370Z already has.

I can shift fast, but not as fast as the auto. I'm a little rusty getting smooth acceleration when shifting, but by the end of the ride I was quite smooth. If I were alone, I wouldn't even think about it.

My wife an I were both very comfortable in the base's manual cloth seats. When I place my feet under/behind the pedals, my long legs are almost flat. We could drive across the country and be very comfortable.

Speaking of seats, there was a Nismo in the showroom, so while waiting for the salesperson to get the base ready, I sat in the Nismo's driver's seat. In short, I found its seats very restricting and uncomfortable. So did my small wife. We prefer the basic seat.

If it's of any value to anyone, I noticed that the cruise control works in 4th, 5th and 6th gears. I wouldn't be surprised if it worked in 3rd, too. I like using cruise in the city to avoid tickets, which have become one of the greatest revenue streams for our great, safety-loving (money grubbing) city council members, so being able to set cruise at say 40 km/hr in a lower gear is a nice feature, IMO.

As long as the vehicle was just barely moving, the vehicle's engine and I found it acceptable to use 2nd gear instead of 1st to start a gentle acceleration.

I found the shift mechanism to be very good. I didn't miss any gears and had no trouble finding the correct one for any given speed.

For a base vehicle, I found the features to be quite good.
-Powerful headlights
-Decent radio/CD player
-Covered, illuminated mirror on the passenger visor, along with extendable light-blocks on both visors
-AC
-Auto-up-down power windows
-Power vehicle door lock-unlock
-Outside keyless door lock/unlock buttons
-Push-button ignition
-Blue tooth phone on steering wheel
-Radio volume controls on steering wheel
-Cruise control on steering wheel
-Power side mirrors
-Probably more that I've missed. Our old base '92 Accord had none of this stuff. Times have definitely changed for the better in 24 years. (OTOH, our base Accord was $18K.)

The one and only negative I found was that when I pressed the cruise control, I honked the horn. At first I did not know what was happening. You've really got to press lightly on those steering wheel controls.

Because my wife would be happier with an auto, today I did an online "build your vehicle" on Nissan.ca. In order to get a vehicle with an auto trans, you have to jump two steps up from the base. Below is a screen-capture of the minimum build/price sheet for a vehicle that has an auto. In short, to get a new 370Z with an auto trans, you've got to spend at least another $15K above the base price, which is ridiculous. And that's a cash purchase. If you finance, it's over $17K. Obviously, what Nissan needs to do is offer an auto-trans-and-nothing-else option for the base for say another $1500-$2000. I can't believe that the auto transmission is that much more expensive than the manual transmission and what the heck does Nissan care, as long as they're selling more vehicles?

I asked the Sales Manager when the '17s were due to arrive. He did not know. I asked him if he knew what the "incentive" would be to sell the remaining '16s. He did not know. I asked him if an auto would be optional on the '17 base. He did not know. So that was an informative conversation.

We'll see what the future holds. In the meantime, I'm watching the used-vehicle ads very closely because we're not paying 47 grand for a summer toy.

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Cornchip

So I think I should jump in and mention this about the manual vs auto debate. Many people here don't like the feel of the clutch pedal on the 370Z. If you search this forum you'll see what I'm talking about, and you probably noticed it on your test drive.

As for me, I've been driving manual transmissions consistently for 20 years so I felt I was able to adjust pretty easily when I got my Z last fall, it is touchy. But for my wife, she would really struggle trying to get it to shift smooth. A couple weeks ago I installed the RJM clutch pedal mod and I must say that it makes a huge difference.

I just thought this might be something to think about if its an issue you or your wife run into. BTW, sound like your in Edmonton, feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the "enthusiast" Z model, I'm in the area.

LMBmikeZ

Oic you talked to one of typical Nissan dealership salesmen and dare I say it managers....... All trained in 5th degree asshatary for not knowing the product they are selling.

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Darwins Child

Thanks for the offer. I appreciate it.

I found the clutch to engage quite high off the floor. Another way to put it is that when you push down to disengage the clutch, from the point where the clutch disengages, the pedal can still travel some distance down to its stop point.

Why Nissan did things this way is beyond me, but the present set up doesn't bother me. It seems to me that the resting position of the pedal could start off closer to the floor with the bottom stop remaining where it is. This would eliminate some of that free travel and maybe make shifting more comfortable. That is, the extended leg could easily hold the pedal all the way down, but not have to lift as high to start engaging the clutch. To me it would then be more predictable just exactly where the clutch would begin to engage.

Zat_Zuma

If you want a "auto" base you will have to go to the states to get one. Lots to choose from and importing a car is easy. Check out Autotrader.com

Unfortunately Nissan Canada doesn't give us the same choices as our southern neighbors. I feel so discriminated against.

Don't get me started about the crappy clutches in 370Z's. I could write a book lol

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Darwins Child

Yes, I agree, but they have so many different models with so many different trim levels, that it must be hard for sales people and even the sales manager to keep up with everything.

With the internet, we customers are usually already well-educated about one particular vehicle before we step into the show room. Nowadays I'm not surprised to find out that I know more about a particular vehicle than the sales person does. Not only that, but most sales people nowadays freely admit to their ignorance. I guess they feel it's safer to go that route rather than try to BS a customer who does not need "sales pitch".

It's essentially the same with electronics and a wide variety of other products. Expecting absolutely nothing from sales people is the way to go.

That being said, the service dept. is an entirely different situation.

Darwins Child

My wife and I imported an '05 Lexus LS430 5 years ago (and sold it three years ago), so I am intimately familiar with the importation process.

For the heck of it, I just checked out Nissan USA's "build your vehicle". The base with auto trans is minimum $32,125 USD, which today converts to $41,832 CAD. That CAD is without all taxes, import fees, transportation fees, converting to KM/hr as the main scale (which I understand can be done merely by replacing the faceplate on the speedo), etc. The price will end up being less than our minimum auto option, but for less than that amount one can buy a new 2014 auto with all the bells and whistles. Check autotrader.ca listings for BC and you'll see one example. Then there all the used automatic vehicles as options to new.

Zat_Zuma

I don't know where you shop but I can pick up a new 2016 base automatic for less than $30,000 US (todays exchange $37,500 CDN or less)

But I regress you have a answer for everything and won't agree with anything I tell you anyways. So carry on convincing yourself and whoever will listen.

Exit stage left .................................

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mishuko

the high clutch is a 'racelike' feel because you are in a 'race car'

btw the Nissan sales MANAGER should have his screws on and details of every car. his front line salesman not as much. but as a manager you should atleast be able to read the spec sheet off each car in the show room. maybe 12?

when I was buying my Z the sales manager was a dink at a Nissan dealership. I got a used one at an acura dealership. he knew more about the fkin car than the Nissan guy.

mishuko

someone got hit right in the feelies.

look it's OP's money. we're here to give our opinion. he may or may not agree. he has made up his mind as to what works for him.

another way to look at it.... another z will join our community

ShinyBlueZ

I got hit in the feelies too! both feelies!

insurance finally back on today.. just drove around in circles for like 150km all day.

now back in the garage till at least next tuesday or wednesday

xdragus

Salesman told me my 2017 nismo is arriving July/August. Another member I talked to said his arrives in July but he's been waiting months before I ordered.

They said my 2016 got damaged during transportation and they refused delivery of it.

There is a 2016 nismo white at woodbine Nissan showroom so maybe my dealership doesn't want to trade with them.

Wonder if they sold it to someone else who wanted to pay more since I got mine for VPP with 2k rebate

mishuko

Probably for about a week lol... I just got the tune done now I can't even play

Maybe next week at earliest

Darwins Child

My wife and I went to look at a '10 today, but were not able to test drive it because the owner had not yet insured it after winter storage. I wish the owner had told us this when we were making arrangements to see the vehicle. Had we known that that rather important detail was the case, we may not have traveled to see it.

Anyway, the vehicle had many nice features including nav, but the owner said that it does not have a backup cam, which, after some searching here, I now realize is the case for all '09s and '10s. Up to this point I had assumed that if the vehicle had nav, it also had the cam, so I got some more unexpected education today.

I also did a search about adding an OEM backup cam to the '10's nav and I see that it's possible and I also believe that I could do the installation myself, so that's nice, but I have one simple question. After you add the OEM cam, in addition to the typical fixed guide lines, does the '10 also display the curving lines that vary their position as you turn the steering wheel? If not, what is the first year that has those curving lines?

Thanks.