2017 370z

Originally Posted by Darwins Child

Thanks and thanks for the review of the video. AFAIK, the base does not have VDC.

We presently own a '10 Mit. Outlander, so we are experiencing road noise like you wouldn't believe. Our previous vehicle was a '92 Accord and it also had tremendous road noise. So we'll feel right at home with road noise.

We don't need or want heated/cooled seats in what will be our summer-only vehicle.

Although I have not yet driven a 370, I have sat in the red base that we're considering buying. There are a few reasons why I actually prefer the manual cloth seats (but I hope that the seat fabric is improved over Nissan's traditional, questionable-quality seat-fabrics).

First, I have slightly better legroom with the manual seat.

Second, because my wife and I are vastly different sizes, a vehicle's seat position for each of us is precisely the opposite in every direction. So the seat mechanism will be used a great deal, to its limits. After some initial practice, each of us will be able to adjust the seat position in a fraction of the time necessary for the power seat. Not only that, but, just like the non-existent rev-match, the non-existent power seat components will never ever need maintenance.

Third, my torso is generally more comfortable in the shape of the base's seat. I believe that the manual seat's side-bolsters are not as confining as the leather power seat's, but I might be wrong on that.

Additionally, I believe that as the seat cushioning "breaks in" over time, it will become even more comfortable.

Lastly, if the 7's seats' covers are removable like the 5's, should Nissan's delicate cloth fabric wear unacceptably, I can install aftermarket leather myself in a few hours for a few hundred.

We'll be taking a test ride in a few days and will report back our impressions of everything.

While I'm at it, is it "hands free" to unlock the vehicle's doors, or do you have to hit the "unlock" button on the FOB?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by mishuko

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oh one more thing you should also be aware of... do some research on CSC. lots of threads in the general/tech area about it.

Originally Posted by Darwins Child

Thanks for the heads up! I just checked the last few pages of this long thread:
Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures
and it seems that this problem is still occurring even in 2016 vehicles, even after all the elapsed time of Nissan knowing of the problem. Not only that, but are their replacement parts any better than the originals? That is, if Nissan replaces the parts, is there bound to be another failure at some point down the road?

Does this problem eventually affect all 370Z clutches or just an unlucky few? If it does eventually affect all, I'm now more inclined to go with a used auto, especially since my wife would be happier with an auto and I'm ambivalent.

Originally Posted by mishuko

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btw as much as people will bash the auto's (I'm guilty) it's not bad at all. it's actually faster 0-60. the automatic is pretty damn good. I'm not sure if the base model has the padal shifters in Canada though.

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

yes it's "faster" but a Z/sports car needs to be MT we all know this. It is part of the joy of driving it and being connected with the machine.

AT just doesn't do it for me with a toy/hobby/fun car

I guess if the Z is your DD then sure AT is more sensible, but when I see people start using these arguments....................then biotch you shouldn't be buying a Z cause in no way is a Z sensible/practical/economical (the list goes on) vehicle.

-it's a 2 seater
-limited cargo space
-not fuel efficient what so ever
-premium fuel recommended
etc
etc
etc

Originally Posted by mishuko

2 seater but you got a trunk
depends on what you're hauling. I've fit quiet a bit into my trunk without much difficulty. a round of tetris if you think you'll have trouble and you're good to go!
premium fuel - required. not a recommendation.

Originally Posted by Darwins Child

I remember that the slave cylinders on the old manual cars that I drove back in the 60's and 70s were almost always on the outside housing of the transmission/clutch and were easy to bleed or replace. If I remember correctly, it was a very similar placement to the one shown on the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-U_QEn4uR8

To me, putting the thing on the inside of the bell housing is crazy, and has been proven to be so, but it must be great for stealership service departments, regardless of who's paying the tab.

I've driven both manual and auto 350Zs and AFAIK there are no paddle shifters available on their autos. You must momentarily blip the selector forward or backward while its in the "sport shifting" position. The one thing I noticed on the autos was how fast they shifted going either up or down. They transitioned and snapped into gear really fast -- far faster than our '10 Outlander XLS auto with its paddle shifters, where there is some noticeable, slippery lag while the transmission completes the shift.

I've just watched some interesting 370Z auto videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCWkQFJ2lwQ
and this one of a young newbie owner being filmed by his Commander in Chief wife or girlfriend (but my money is on the former):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGHIqYvaNi0
and here's a pure 0-60 with auto that impresses me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8egltrSJYM0

I doubt like heck that I could manually shift any faster than the auto ......... but I'm more than willing to give it a try and I will do so on our test drive of the base. If the slave cylinder should fail during that drive, so be it. Edmonntonians are enjoying some great summer-like weather, so the walk will be nice.

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

with you lots can fit back there but a nice sedan would kill it when comparing trunk size, functionality etc.

Also premium is a must in my opinion but I know people that do not use it. some driving "higher end vehicles" they say "....but it was just a recommendation"