anyone encounter csc failure issues yet?
 

Just seeing how many canadians have gotten the CSC failure issues. I've seen the CSC spreadsheet and seems like even new 2015-2016 models are getting it with very low mileage.

Have you had difficulty getting the dealership to cover the repairs or has it come out of your own pocket?

Looking to purchase a 2016 370z in the next few weeks for a spring delivery so just doing some initial research.

there's a guy in western Canada with 300k on his car and went through a few... 4 if i recall. they all varied in when they 'blew up' and but the shortest duration was a few thousand but that was due to a clutch pressure issue or something like that.

I'm under 39k on a 2012 and haven't had any issues but doing a pre-emptive strike before my road trip.

the speculation to fast failing csc's is you're beating the clutch like a single guy beats himself at night. don't drop the clutch, consistent pressure and movement and don't use it more than you need to tends to do better lifespan.

have you considered purchasing an lightly used z and save the extra cash for mods + maintenance instead? ie the csc/msc replacement, cbe, intakes, forced induction etc?

or just buy an auto =P

Dealership should cover it under the 3 year/36K mile bumper to bumper warranty that comes with the car. Beyond that mileage you'll need to make sure the warranty covers it.

Plan to fix the issue down the road if you buy new and plan to keep it long term (I did around 51K miles). Don't worry about it if you plan to get rid of the car in a couple years.

I believe the member is 90 ST.

you believe is right :P

I just said member because.. well 'member' :icon17:




another thing is, while it may be nice to get the warranty to possibly cover, I would strongly consider/advise of getting an aftermarket csc (Z1 and ZSPEED have their own) and the OEM MSC.

the MSC needs to be replaced to satisfy the warranty liability from those manufacturers.

hope to see another Z on the road... let us know if/when you get it! :tiphat:

Yep, as mentioned I've gone through a few, but most of the problems I had with short term life was a stiffer pressure plate, with all stock parts I was over 200,000 kms before the original one went and i'm over 100k with the new one, and all stock clutch kit.

Don't see any used white 2015-16 nismo 370z on the market and i'm actually getting the nismo to do very minimal modding as i'm quite happy with how it looks.

Also getting the nismo with VPP so I save a bit. I'm coming from a 2004 black 350z which I've been driving over 10-11 years :)

I'm old and grumpy so don't want to deal with the headache of grabbing parts, dealing with horrible ups/fedex, or having the car sit at the mechanic/body shop.


So it looks like us canadians have had better luck with the CSC or....there's not that many of us now :)

I picked up a brand new 2016 last summer, CSC failed under 2000km.

was repaired under warranty in a day and a half, and so far so good. I'll still be replacing the clutch etc just to avoid the future headache

good choice!

i think the cooler weather helps. i think the csc is from Germany or something. works great until it doesn't. then it just... breaks :ugh2:

there are a lot of alternatives to get aftermarket parts now... I've had good experience with shippers lately.

fml... that's sad to hear. you should def save up for some aftermarket csc/msc.

I have a new ZSpeed CSC for sale too

and I'm in Canada. It's good to have a spare ......just saying

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My 2016 nismo csc went at 1k miles. Also test drove a 16 sport and it failed at 6 miles on the test drive.

Mine failed recently as well. '09 with roughly 65,000 km.

Replaced it with the Zspeed one so hopefully it stands the test of time.

6 total miles on the odometer?! Or it was used and it failed 6 miles in?

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I said this at your original post (Original CSC post) long time ago but I will repeat it Again. This is insane! You should mail a letter to Nissan with your story and a link to this (and the other massive csc thread)

I swear it's Nissan's way of forcing auto's on us :stirthepot:

my 09 failed twice once at50k and again at 80k so I replaced it with the Zspeed and so far so good

i'm guessing the 50k failure was fixed at dealership then the 80k zpeed fix was done at a private shop?

No my man, they didn't warranty anything csuse car is highly modified, they refused to touch it

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ah **** that sucks :(

I think dealerships are more lenient in the US, here they can't wait to use the excuse that the car is modified and not touch it

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wonder if i should just pick up the z1 csc right off the bat and install right away. Getting stranded is a terrible feeling while waiting for the flatbed as your car impedes other drivers.

Will most likely have swift springs + camber kit installed shortly picking up the Z. Also to have my mechanic check for those black spacers dealership may forget to take off...

I am under 40k and nothing yet. I'm going to be doing the swap of hd csc + (oem) msc in the spring.

it's honestly a fear to get stranded... especially on road trips. :confused:

6 miles on the odo lol... told the salesman we might not make it back. He laughed, I said no im serious :bowrofl:

Swap to motul clutch fluid and save the csc for a clutch and flywheel swap day

Thanks all for the help. Just signed for my 2016 white nismo yesterday ^_^

I'm not saying anything but could this be just the way you drive?

ohhh ****, I can see mine failing after I post this comment :icon17:

had signs of mine failing on a 2011 sport with 50K . Went to Napierville track last fall and on my first run at 1-2 shift, clutch stayed on the floor. Was able to get pedal back up and drove back home to Ottawa, clutch felt normal, no apparent slipping. Think I'll swap out the CSC this summer

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Mine went at 6000 km I power shift like crazy tho

Hmm I have a new 2016 base Z (about 3000 km on it). Just found out about these CSC failures and they're making me paranoid.

Is the failure instant? Exactly what happens when it dies? Are there any signs of failure ahead of time? Would you guys advise just swapping to an aftermarket one ASAP?

(also don't want to be stranded on the side of the road randomly.... ) =/

I check my fluids religiously at gas ups. Watch your clutch fluid lvl and color. Watch for excessive change and sediment appearing is a sign it's about to go bye bye.

I also do my oil check and a quick brake fluid lvl check eye ball the power steering fluids and be good with it.

When it dies your clutch drops and then does not return. Worst case your fluids leak on your plates and you need a new clutch as well. Best case you just drop the tranny for the csc and master replace. All in all you're best off doing clutch at same time. I didn't due to budget issues so I'll end up dropping more on labor when I need to change the fkin clutch. Hopefully not anytime soon lol

I swapped mine at around 39k km to the zspeed and oem master. Can't have a failure going down to Zdayz.

do you have any pre-fail symptoms or if it happens suddenly one day?

I have an 2016. only putting 10K kilos/year on it so I hope that if it has to fail, it will under warrenty :(

Mine failed at around 5000 kms.

It happened slowly for me - drove it home at night and it felt like I had to push the clutch closer to the floor to shift, tried to drive it the next morning and the clutch was to the floor.

The dealer was great though, had it fixed under warranty within a day of the parts arriving.

read my previous post. if you watch your fluids regularly you should be able to notice it as it starts to go. unless the seal just spontaneously ruptures and you get a dropped pedal.


I had 39k on my car before I swapped mine in a preventative maintenance swap not because it was failing.

The master usually gives some warning - the pedal will get soft.

The slave rarely gives warning - and once it goes, you are stranded.

Mish has the right idea. Keep an eye on the clutch fluid for discoloration and contaminants. The best preventative maintenance you can do (aside from replacing the CSC before it fails), is to keep the fluid clean.