Nismo VS Sport Package Springs, Struts and Shocks

GSS138 · 02-03-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Yuras

Sorry, I missed the "S" - I forget the spelling police are everywhere on the internet.

And yes, the Zs will run with the Caymans and Boxters fine. 911s obviously require some work because they are faster in a straight line, however we can turn just as well or better in some circumstances because the engine is installed in the correct part of our car.

Not the new Cayman RS's

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oscargarza88 · 02-08-2015, 07:28 PM

So i had a autox today, first time in the Z and just reporting back with some impressions on nismo shocks and swift springs.
Unfortunately didnt autox before with stock setup so cant help with questions on comparisons.

Impressions on the suspension is that it was fantastic!!
Extremely stable and perfectly composed on the corners. There was a very long sweeper and i could control the rear of the car with the gas very well and car wasnt wobbling while making adjustments mid corner or anything.
Changes in direction were nice and suspension just settled immediately. When the back did kick out a bit it was very progressive and easy to anticipate. I was expecting some smap oversteer in some corners but never had it.
In a couple of bumpy parts of the autox the suspension soaked them up real well.

I would like to touch up on some negative aspects but i honestly dont have any. The setup really did surpass my expectations.
I have been attending autox regularly for over 7 years so im somewhat experienced relatively speaking.

Alignment is what the car got after i installed the springs so dont know exactly but from what i read about -1.3-6 in the front and -2.3-5 in the back? I have spacers and SPL camber arms for the back which are not installed yet but for autox i think the alighnment is great. If anythign maybe just a little more neg camber in the front for some more agressive turn in would be great.

Im going to dial out some camber in the back just for tire longevity alone but it felt great in Autox.

When i get it alight with the parts installed ill post the current alighment with my new one just to associate this experience with whatever alignment the car has right now.

I was in STR and did fairly ok. A bit above half way which considering the competition i was happy with. Didnt expect any higher in this class.
Any questions feel free to ask .
Thanks

oscargarza88 · 02-13-2015, 12:01 PM

So installed SPL camber arms in the back. threw suspension out wack and got it aligned today.
Here are final specs.

Front camber is .5 off from eachother. any ideas why this could be considering there is no adjustment? something i could have done when i installed them?
thanks

Rusty · 02-13-2015, 02:38 PM

You got stock front upper arms. Nothing you can do to change it unless you change the arms. The difference between the sides is tolerance when they built the car. Nothing more, and your caster is real close.

Read T · 02-13-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

You got stock front upper arms. Nothing you can do to change it unless you change the arms. The difference between the sides is tolerance when they built the car. Nothing more, and your caster is real close.

But you can't go wrong with max caster at the track

Rusty · 02-13-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T

But you can't go wrong with max caster at the track

but you can't adjust caster with stock arms either.

I have the SPL arms, which you can adjust both camber and caster.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-20-2017, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc

Yeah I don't support any aftermarket spring without proper dampening for any racing/performance driving whatsoever. Experience I have plenty of, and I've seen the swift springs everyone has (type r) in person and they are definitely progressive.

Edit: meant that most people have, not everyone.

Read the post below:

I agree with you there. For 4-500 that would be a solid deal.

I thought the swift race springs were standard fit for 3 different coilover sizes only? Do they make a linear spring that fits the stock suspension? have a link by chance?

Thread resurrection cuz this was annoying me!!

I have swift springs.... YOU'RE WRONG!!

THey're linear....

https://www.kamispeed.com/Swift-Spec...swf.4n905r.htm

They are designed for track use....

Swift Springs USA

Two pages of a pointless debate cuz these facts are everywhere.

Fact: Linear

Opinion: They're progressive.

s2krazyyy · 03-21-2017, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Thread resurrection cuz this was annoying me!!

I have swift springs.... YOU'RE WRONG!!

THey're linear....

https://www.kamispeed.com/Swift-Spec...swf.4n905r.htm

They are designed for track use....

Swift Springs USA

Two pages of a pointless debate cuz these facts are everywhere.

Fact: Linear

Opinion: They're progressive.

Would like someone to chime in on this. By definition of a progressive spring vs linear, the swifts sure do look like the text book definition of a progressive spring. Not saying you are wrong but a linear spring is suppose to have a constant rate which the swifts dont have, but the company says its linear... im confused.

Jhill · 03-21-2017, 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=s2krazyyy;3630230]Would like someone to chime in on this. By definition of a progressive spring vs linear, the swifts sure do look like the text book definition of a progressive spring. Not saying you are wrong but a linear spring is suppose to have a constant rate which the swifts dont have, but the company says its linear... im confused

It probably depends on how you are counting. What swift is most likely doing is running the initial coils very soft and collapsing instantly and then once compressed it will be a 10k rate from there, just as if you had a 10k linear spring and then helper springs underneath.

So if your counting the rate from full extension then yes it's progressive just as a helper and main setup overall rate would be progressive. If your counting after initial sag (ride height) then it may be linear, just as a helper and main setup would be.

Really someone needs to put them on a spring tester and test the rate after the "drop/helper coils" have fully compressed to truly verify they are linear.

nis350 · 03-22-2017, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhill

What swift is most likely doing is running the initial coils very soft and collapsing instantly and then once compressed it will be a 10k rate from there, just as if you had a 10k linear spring

Billyt858 · 04-17-2017, 05:30 PM

Does anyone know a 2016 nissan 370z sport strut (front and rear) will fit onto a 2010 base 370z? The dealership has no idea without the part number. Can anyone tell me of any fitment issue? I planned on buying it used.

TerribleONE · 04-17-2017, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billyt858

Does anyone know a 2016 nissan 370z sport strut (front and rear) will fit onto a 2010 base 370z? The dealership has no idea without the part number. Can anyone tell me of any fitment issue? I planned on buying it used.

Yes it will fit just fine

DeusExMaxima · 11-13-2021, 04:27 AM

Thread resurrection... any more comments on the topic of OEM Nismo vs sport suspension, especially with the newer Nismo suspension?

Rusty · 11-13-2021, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima

Thread resurrection... any more comments on the topic of OEM Nismo vs sport suspension, especially with the newer Nismo suspension?

The newer Nismo suspension is still a bit stiffer. But not as stiff as the older Nismo.

02-08-2015, 07:28 PM	#77 (permalink)
oscargarza88 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SATX Posts: 84 Drives: Miata Rep Power: 11	So i had a autox today, first time in the Z and just reporting back with some impressions on nismo shocks and swift springs. Unfortunately didnt autox before with stock setup so cant help with questions on comparisons. Impressions on the suspension is that it was fantastic!! Extremely stable and perfectly composed on the corners. There was a very long sweeper and i could control the rear of the car with the gas very well and car wasnt wobbling while making adjustments mid corner or anything. Changes in direction were nice and suspension just settled immediately. When the back did kick out a bit it was very progressive and easy to anticipate. I was expecting some smap oversteer in some corners but never had it. In a couple of bumpy parts of the autox the suspension soaked them up real well. I would like to touch up on some negative aspects but i honestly dont have any. The setup really did surpass my expectations. I have been attending autox regularly for over 7 years so im somewhat experienced relatively speaking. Alignment is what the car got after i installed the springs so dont know exactly but from what i read about -1.3-6 in the front and -2.3-5 in the back? I have spacers and SPL camber arms for the back which are not installed yet but for autox i think the alighnment is great. If anythign maybe just a little more neg camber in the front for some more agressive turn in would be great. Im going to dial out some camber in the back just for tire longevity alone but it felt great in Autox. When i get it alight with the parts installed ill post the current alighment with my new one just to associate this experience with whatever alignment the car has right now. I was in STR and did fairly ok. A bit above half way which considering the competition i was happy with. Didnt expect any higher in this class. Any questions feel free to ask . Thanks Jordo!, carlitos_370z and Jimbo370 like this.

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02-13-2015, 12:01 PM	#78 (permalink)
oscargarza88 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SATX Posts: 84 Drives: Miata Rep Power: 11	So installed SPL camber arms in the back. threw suspension out wack and got it aligned today. Here are final specs. Front camber is .5 off from eachother. any ideas why this could be considering there is no adjustment? something i could have done when i installed them? thanks

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Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 854 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3384	[QUOTE=s2krazyyy;3630230]Would like someone to chime in on this. By definition of a progressive spring vs linear, the swifts sure do look like the text book definition of a progressive spring. Not saying you are wrong but a linear spring is suppose to have a constant rate which the swifts dont have, but the company says its linear... im confused It probably depends on how you are counting. What swift is most likely doing is running the initial coils very soft and collapsing instantly and then once compressed it will be a 10k rate from there, just as if you had a 10k linear spring and then helper springs underneath. So if your counting the rate from full extension then yes it's progressive just as a helper and main setup overall rate would be progressive. If your counting after initial sag (ride height) then it may be linear, just as a helper and main setup would be. Really someone needs to put them on a spring tester and test the rate after the "drop/helper coils" have fully compressed to truly verify they are linear.

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Billyt858 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Gilbert Posts: 5 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 9	Does anyone know a 2016 nissan 370z sport strut (front and rear) will fit onto a 2010 base 370z? The dealership has no idea without the part number. Can anyone tell me of any fitment issue? I planned on buying it used.

11-13-2021, 04:27 AM	#88 (permalink)
DeusExMaxima Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 80 Drives: 2010 red roadster Rep Power: 6720	Thread resurrection... any more comments on the topic of OEM Nismo vs sport suspension, especially with the newer Nismo suspension?