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osbornsm 10-06-2014 07:42 AM

Review: Whiteline Front anti-roll bar
 
Rating: :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
- Three thumbs down
- Remember that Adam Sandler CD where he had the "piece of sh*t car" song? Read on...

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Review:
The Whiteline anti-roll bar is a solid piece, not hollow, so its heavy.
- If you give a crap about a couple pounds THAT low on the body, please show me your lap times that prove it made a difference...

It comes with the necessary hardware to install and even a grease packet :tup:

They come with "lateral locks" which are pretty much clamps to prevent the bar from moving. Neat trick.

http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/products/..._installed.jpg

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HOWEVER...
The lateral locks also provide the excellent service of REMOVING the bushing from the FU*K#&^ bracket while you drive.

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Summary:
  • DO NOT BUY this product for the 370z until Whiteline develops a better way to manage their bushings.
  • The Whiteline Anti-Roll bar feels wonderful.
  • The steering is crisp like inhaling the first bit of a Sprite when you open it.
  • They need a better system to manage their bushings.
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Update 1 week later
Whiteline bar is now uninstalled and the OEM bar is back on the car.

Whiteline support has found another vehicle's bushing which has the appropriate lip to keep the sway bar in place, and fits the 370z bar size.

Warranty claims will be sending me a brand new Front Sway Bar because i had to drive "bushing-less" for 300 miles, with the bar rattling over every f*ing bump.

Results
  • A+ Whiteline customer service
  • C- product design

New bar and DIFFERENT bushings are on their way, free of charge.

Rusty 10-06-2014 08:12 AM

Other members have reported the samething with the locks. :(

osbornsm 10-06-2014 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2990046)
Other members have reported the samething with the locks. :(

Who ?

I haven't seen a review of them??

aszyd 10-06-2014 09:43 AM

I'll need to take a look at my bars, but I don't think that I have the bushing issue... My problem with the front bar was that I had to enlarge the mounting holes. The endlinks would not slide through the bar, forcing me to drill them out to fit.

ZMan8 10-06-2014 09:57 AM

Kenchan had issues with his bar as well I think.

kenchan 10-06-2014 10:12 AM

i did, i just karate chopped it in half. :mad:





actually you need to set the collar locks to fit completely flush -0.5mm with the bar on both sides. ive not had the bushing push out since. but ive not tracked the car so dont know how well it hold ups on a road course.

that said, if you only want the front bar, i suggest you get the stillen swaybar set and just use the front bar + stock bushings and clamps.

gbrettin 10-06-2014 10:33 AM

I have both front and rear whiteline sways. I better get my car on a hoist to look into this.

Rangerz 10-06-2014 10:47 AM

I have been running these bars front and rear all year with 2 track days a month since Mar and haven't had any issues at all. The powder coating was a little thick on one of the front end link holes and needed to be reamed a little.

osbornsm 10-06-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 2990283)
I have been running these bars front and rear all year with 2 track days a month since Mar and haven't had any issues at all. The powder coating was a little thick on one of the front end link holes and needed to be reamed a little.

How did you mount the Lateral Locks they included in the kit?

Rangerz 10-06-2014 11:25 AM

Similar to you pic. If i remember right turned them so the lock had the most bite against the bushing keeper. I gotta get under mine again later this week to do the oil and will snap a pic

osbornsm 10-06-2014 11:49 AM

THIS. See anything MISSING HERE????

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...9.jpg~original

kenchan 10-06-2014 12:01 PM

:icon17: kangaroo bar! :mad:

jlo370z 10-06-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 2990404)
THIS. See anything MISSING HERE????

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...9.jpg~original

mine are working great btw ;)

carlitos_370z 10-06-2014 12:47 PM

damn.... thanks for the review... this swaybars are on my list.. but after see this i have to modified my wish list lol... someone can tell me what sway bars are the best for our 370z's thanks!!!

Rangerz 10-06-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 2990404)
THIS. See anything MISSING HERE????

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...9.jpg~original

Jez...i thought it was just pushing a little bit. Thats damn near completly out. Pain in the butt but you coyld modify a couple of thick washers to put between the lock and the bushing...IDK just spit balling

Trips 10-06-2014 01:03 PM

I have seen this same issue before, But for the most part not to many have complained.

When I saw the first issue some years ago? I felt a little better going in the Hotchkis direction minus the rear bar :ugh2:

If the company doesn't get enough complaints the issue will remain unfortunately.

osbornsm 10-06-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2990474)
mine are working great btw ;)

Yes... thank you James. :bowrofl:

jlo370z 10-06-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 2990545)
Yes... thank you James. :bowrofl:

lol

follow the leader , hes in the Red one over there ;):tup:


sucks dude, hope they resolve the issue for you

Rusty 10-06-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2990492)
damn.... thanks for the review... this swaybars are on my list.. but after see this i have to modified my wish list lol... someone can tell me what sway bars are the best for our 370z's thanks!!!

Hotchkis front bar, stock rear stock. ;)

osbornsm 10-06-2014 03:44 PM

Quote from Whiteline support...

"This is one of the worst bushing designs I've even seen."

Horses mouth people. Take a hint.

:iagree:

clkio 10-06-2014 07:14 PM

I was a click away from buying these before I decided to buy the stillen sway bar set and I love it.

carlitos_370z 10-07-2014 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2990709)
Hotchkis front bar, stock rear stock. ;)

Thanks a lot Bro!!! im going to throw my money on those Hotchkis :tup: soon

jlo370z 10-07-2014 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2991498)
Thanks a lot Bro!!! im going to throw my money on those Hotchkis :tup: soon

you will love them :tup:

I have front and rear with swift springs and I think its a must for the car. what a difference

Wonka2581 10-07-2014 08:12 AM

Whoa... Well my Hotckis bars I got dont have the "lateral locks" you speak of..... I wonder If I need them.....

carlitos_370z 10-07-2014 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2991620)
you will love them :tup:

I have front and rear with swift springs and I think its a must for the car. what a difference

Thanks a lot for the review JLO... i have Swift Springs too soo im going for this as soon i buy the catback :stirthepot:

jlo370z 10-07-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2991626)
Whoa... Well my Hotckis bars I got dont have the "lateral locks" you speak of..... I wonder If I need them.....


No you are good


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kenchan 10-07-2014 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 2990257)
I have both front and rear whiteline sways. I better get my car on a hoist to look into this.

you can just shine a flash light through the wheel well and check.. at least the fronts. i do that on occasion. mine have been fine.

not that i support kangaroo bars in any way. :mad: i shouldnt have to do this at all.
i run stock rear bar. car feels great though... :D (otherwise stock suspension)

osbornsm 10-09-2014 10:52 AM

Bump for update in status... see orig post.

kenchan 10-09-2014 11:18 AM

id like to see that new bushing and bracket :tup:

Rusty 10-09-2014 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2991626)
Whoa... Well my Hotckis bars I got dont have the "lateral locks" you speak of..... I wonder If I need them.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2991742)
No you are good


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Yep, you're good. Just keep the bushing greased. :pics:;)

osbornsm 10-09-2014 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2994848)
id like to see that new bushing and bracket :tup:

Ask and receive!!

NOW the bushing has a tab on one side and a functional lip on the other. Before it was just two tabs, which didn't work.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...f.jpg~original

ZMan8 10-09-2014 01:31 PM

At least their customer service is good :tup:

Rangerz 10-11-2014 07:26 PM

osbornsm,

Snapped a few pics for you. Here is what I think is happening to people who have these pushing out.

#1 I have my locks much closer than you do .060 from the bushing clamp sticks in my head but, that could be wrong. BL=Need to be closer to the bushing clamp.

#2 When these push out it is a compounding problem. By that I mean if you have your lock 1/4" away and the bushing rides the bar "pushes out" then the bar settles back to a normal balance after your corner is done. It doesn't mean the rubber bushing is following it back in, then another corner and you push it a little more etc...

#3 This type of setup needs to be greased with good grease. The lack of grease will increase the stiction of the rubber and the bar when their is friction which causes it to follow or ride the bar.

I have just over 9000 miles and 24 20 min track sessions on my setup. I did see just the slightest like 1/16" displacement in my driver side rubber bushing.

I'm going to add Sway Bar re-grease to my 10,000 mi maintenance.

Here are the pics for reference. Hope this helps you out. They are good bars but, I agree the Hotchins bushings are a much better design.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps88g0rqfm.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...psqgddfy6f.jpg

Just saw your above post :) looks like those bushings are the ticket. Can you buy those separably?

kenchan 10-13-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 2994870)
Ask and receive!!

NOW the bushing has a tab on one side and a functional lip on the other. Before it was just two tabs, which didn't work.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...f.jpg~original

that looks good. meaty :tup: btw, that meaty side is suppose to go on the inner side, probably...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 2997175)
osbornsm,

Snapped a few pics for you. Here is what I think is happening to people who have these pushing out.

#1 I have my locks much closer than you do .060 from the bushing clamp sticks in my head but, that could be wrong. BL=Need to be closer to the bushing clamp.

yah, that's wat the problem is too i think... i mentioned earlier as well that the collars need to be basically flush -0.5mm..otherwise the bar moves too much giving the endlinks leverage to push the bushing out from under the brackets.

mine have been fine the last 2 seasons. :tup:

kenchan 10-17-2014 11:41 AM

so were the new bushings installed?

kenchan 10-21-2014 10:11 AM

:ugh2:

osbornsm 10-21-2014 03:00 PM

Hey Kenchan...

I'm waiting on a new front sway to be shipped before re-installing. I had that bar rattling around for 300 miles on my drive home.

They said "a few weeks".

*sigh

kenchan 10-22-2014 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 3007533)
Hey Kenchan...

I'm waiting on a new front sway to be shipped before re-installing. I had that bar rattling around for 300 miles on my drive home.

They said "a few weeks".

*sigh

oh i c... dang, sorry to hear u have to wait that long. :shakes head:

when you do install next time though, make sure that the collars are like flush to the bushings -0.5mm each side.

kenchan 10-31-2014 10:39 AM

still waiting, huh? :ugh:

kenchan 11-12-2014 03:38 PM

a month coming up soon... :ugh2:


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