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I don't think the Hotchkis are hollow. If I'm not mistaken, I recall reading that they are in fact heavier than stock and beefier offering more rigidity and strength. *EDIT*

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Hotchkis 35 34.31%
Stillen 24 23.53%
Stock OEM 7 6.86%
Nismo 5 4.90%
Wait for Cusco or another company with adjustable front/rear 31 30.39%
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't think the Hotchkis are hollow.

If I'm not mistaken, I recall reading that they are in fact heavier than stock and beefier offering more rigidity and strength.


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Not really Kenchan .... as long as the ratio of stiffness between the front and the back remain the same before and after you upgrade sway bars - all you will be changing is how much less the car rolls. What you say is true but more-so for coilovers etc... with sway bars you can add a little under-steer or add some over-steer by simply adjusting the relative stiffness between the front and rear -- and you can keep the dynamics the same as long as the stiffness ratio is kept close to stock...
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not really Kenchan .... as long as the ratio of stiffness between the front and the back remain the same before and after you upgrade sway bars - all you will be changing is how much less the car rolls. What you say is true but more-so for coilovers etc... with sway bars you can add a little under-steer or add some over-steer by simply adjusting the relative stiffness between the front and rear -- and you can keep the dynamics the same as long as the stiffness ratio is kept close to stock...
by changing how much less the car rolls puts more burden
on the tires and that opens up a whole new
discussion.

while keeping everything else constant, yep, the amount
of under/over steer can be tuned with the swaybar setup
but by how much depends on the structure and design of
the bar, how far the bolt holes are spread apart (setting),
etc.

it's easier to buy one and trial and error, imho.
because your steering/brake/throttle inputs can also
dramatically change how the car behaves under those
circumstances and you and i do not drive the car the
same or under the same driving conditions.

the trial and error also goes for coilovers by changing
spring rates/damp rates/height settings, etc. all changes
the way the car behaves...

so, it leads me back to the original post where i would
ask about the craftsmanship/fitment/durability aspecs
and play with the swaybar. i recommend you get the ones
with most setting holes and get adjustable endlinks to
do in-between settings. like mid on one side/soft on the
other end of the bar, etc.
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Update to my previous post:

looks like Stillen and Hotckis are dead even in popularity and preference.
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im currently running stillen on my G35C and they have been great the last 5yrs.

ive ran hotchikis bits on my previous car and it was good too...and
looking at how hotchikis has collars for the bushings, i think it's a
toss up.
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Update: Cusco, Stillen, Hotchkis are all dead even.

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Their price is steep I'm sure but when it comes to a sport car's handling, I figure why the hell not spend a little bit more and get something that much better. It's not like its THAT much more anyways...IMO
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I don't mind spending more especially considering how much the car costs.

Pricing does tend to sway my attention initially however though and makes me question the justification.

I'm definitely going to research a bit more about cuscos before I make my purchase!
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I'm the same, price always is a consideration but if I can justify the pricing through quality etc then I'll pull the trigger 95% of the time.
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hate you for having a Porsche by the way. Why the change ?
Take a Cayman S out with PDK and PASM. It is an amazing stock car. Is it worth twice the price of a 370Z, NO!
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I am not voting, but,
I had cusco on my 350z because there was a group buy.

I currently have Stillen on the 370, and I run a square tire setup on the track. In my one 20 minute setup, I found that although the car is more tail happy with trail breaking and power application out of the corners than my C6, it definitely seems to break out in a 4 wheel drift.

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