swift and spl parts + spacers question?
 

so i just got my swifts, spl upper control arms, spl camber arms, and lockout bolt installed yesterday!

ride feels real nice, only got about 10 miles of driving but the springs are awesome so far.

before:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/9uzetyta.jpg

after:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/eqevu9ad.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/zy8yrazy.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/a9u8avub.jpg

thinking of leaving it and just buying another lockout kit to go in the right spot unless there's a reason I shouldn't do that?

It's in the right place. Another lockout will hurt your alignment

I don't get it, everywhere I check the bolts are installed in what holds the springs in( spring bucket)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/qyqa6uhy.jpg
what's circled
by drilling or dremeling out the old bolt holes.

none of that was done on my car, where the square plates are is where they were installed and that's a different location.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/5y4yreza.jpg
shouldn't it go here like the DIY says it should?

It looks to me that they installed it in the wrong location.

The spl camber arm has the adjustment built into already making it useless where they installed it.

The camber kit replaces that circled bolt that holds the rear spring

What the hell?



The ones with the squares are lockouts... You install lockouts for adjustable arms. OP, you need different toe bolts for more adjustment, OR replace the rear spring buckets/midlinks/toe arm with SPLs, then you replace the ones you have circled with lockouts.

Can someone else chime in? I feel like a retard, I have 2 people saying I'm wrong, but I keep looking back and I'm 100% sure I'm right, lol

Exactly what I said :icon17:

But, but... You said:
It looks to me that they installed it in the wrong location.

The spl camber arm has the adjustment built into already making it useless where they installed it.


Why would that make it useless?

From what I've read. You'd want to install it on the spring bucket location to adjust toe. If you go SPC bolts, you will have to elongate the hole to allow for more adjustability.

Now looking at them closely I thought they were the adjustable toe bolts

Thanks for up clearing up my confusion.

yeah it was a mechanic that just got confused on location, i noticed when he told me he didnt have to drill.

the bolts in the camber arm are the spl eccentric lockout kit the stock toe bolts have not been moved.

everything right now is tight and alignment is holding even tho i have a little more toe then id like it i dont think its too much so shouldn't it be fine for a dd untill Saturday?

it's not useless it still can adjust toe a LITTLE where he installed it wrong, at least enough to get it in green on alignment rack

Yeah, you'll be fine DD-ing it. After installing my SPL arms and not seeing it worth a single damn without better toe bolts. I decided to go balls to the wall and got myself some SPL midlinks to lock my suspension completely.

ok thanks depoint50,
and yeah those r real nice but not gonna happen this year with that price.

I agree, I luckily snagged a new set for $400 through FB. And synolimit is selling a barely used set for $500. I figure over the years it'll be worth it in tires and alignments (I have free alignments, just sick and tired of driving to them)

The other thing I don't know is if you use the SPC eccentric bolts... Can you then switch to the SPL midlinks or SPL toe arms (depending on suspension setup) later? Or no because those holes have been made larger...?

good deal!

but that I don't know, I'm calling spl tm to ask them a few questions and I'll add that one in too.
what is ur toe set at with those midlinks?

Andrew they're $550, don't short me. And you need my springs too. You can't run anything but a swift racing spring with the spl mid links. The mid link only excepts a 2.5" ID spring which a swift spec r is not. Check the pic.

As said everything is installed correctly. You install a lockout kit after you install an adjustable arm. You don't install the lockout kit on the OEM spring bucket or else you'll have zero way to adjust toe and you'll have to ways to adjust camber which would be pointless.

ok so there in the right spot, I got toe bolts an the lockout kit confused.
spl said that's right.

How did the ride change. Did the big bouncing on rough roads go away?

I haven't installed them yet (they come in tomorrow)

I'll be going for 0 toe, 0 camber. Car already cambers and toes in like a MOFO during acceleration, and if I need to go track it, I'll dial a bit of camber in.

yes it did get a lot less bouncy.
I didn't like those nismo springs. it's smoother when driving regular but when u push it on cornering it handles it like a champ and feels very nice. idk how much of that is the new camber settings or the spacers tho

Question on this before I start an installation on the SPL camber arms.
Sorry if this has been answered, i just get a bit confused when reading and SPC keeps getting mentioned.

Is there anything else needed? Will the OEM toe bolt work fine?

Or new toe bolts are needed for the SPL camber arms, along with enlarging the hole.

depends on how low u want to go.
for example I used swifts for about an 1" drop and with rear camber arms, front control arms and the lockout kit I could get almost all my alignment in the green.
however to get my toe a little better I still need spc toe bolts and to enlarge the holes.

maybe someone else knows better tho

I have the swifts also, but i wanna find out if i needed or not.
If i don't, then i can possibly make it a DIY.
If i do need, then i would take it to the shop. Since i dont have the tools to enlarge the holes for the toe bolts.

since there only $30-40 I would get them, I know I am.

do u NEED then I would say no

but I wanna dial down my toe a little more then it's alowing me to right now

over time u would save $$ in tires by getting the toe bolts tho

It is either Swift springs or a customer set of coilovers. The issue with coilovers is it will be trial and error until I get the suspension tuned the way I want. I like a good plyable ride that is on rails and is not soft. I am shooting for the stars and hopefully I hit the moon. With all the reading on here about the Swift springs, I have got to give them a try. This is the second Nismo folk that has upgraded with good results. Thanks for the info and review.

swift and spl parts + spacers question?
 

your welcome, also so u know I've spent countless hours and days researching coilovers swearing I would never get spring and especially not swift cuz it's not low enough...
can't tell u how wrong I was and happy I am with the swifts.

not saying coilovers aren't awesome and have there place but for me an what I'm looking for as a temp solution there great.

at least until I can get the accuair set up and have the best of both sides.

DE is correct. The lockouts go on the eccentric that the SPL arms are on. You are locking out the stock adjustment point "eccentric bolt" and using the adjustability of the SPL arm. The toe arm "spring bucket arm" still needs adjustability until replaced.

thanks rangerz and DE

Sorry man....note to self if it has been answered on pg2 don't reply...LoL saw you called SPL on pg 2 after I posted.