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ZETO34 07-04-2014 11:19 AM

Lowering Nismo: BC or KW v3 Coilovers
 
Hey guys I like the nismo stance but the flush stance looks so much better, so I'm wanting to go static. Which coilovers do you guys recommend? I don't want to sacrifice the way the car handles already, if anything I want to make it better. Just wanted some others opinions before I purchase

KaienZ34 07-04-2014 06:47 PM

BC's are the best bang for the buck, heavy track use=KW's.

ZETO34 07-04-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2884306)
BC's are the best bang for the buck, heavy track use=KW's.


So how would the BC's hold up if I did occasional tracking? Will they hug as hard as the stock does?

KaienZ34 07-04-2014 07:01 PM

They are a very good set of coils and are fine to track no problem. Unless your a track junkie you won't get that much more out of the KW's than the BC's.

ZETO34 07-04-2014 07:09 PM

Looks like i'm going BC's then, thanks for the help man

KaienZ34 07-04-2014 07:12 PM

Unless you find the bomb azz deal on some KW V3's, most used BC's can be had for around 700-800 or so.

DEpointfive0 07-04-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2884322)
Unless you find the bomb azz deal on some KW V3's, most used BC's can be had for around 700-800 or so.

OP, hit up NuGen, he's got a special running

KaienZ34 07-04-2014 07:24 PM

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dP3NGU1N 07-04-2014 07:32 PM

sofaking is selling his set of KWs for like $1400 or something. See if he'll ship. Or hell DEpointfive0 might be willing to ship if you make it worth his while. I've seen him do it for less than a hand job.

http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...k-up-only.html

KaienZ34 07-04-2014 07:41 PM

Ooor i've got a set of BC's that I never installed. I bought them used here on the forum with 2k miles on them, http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...coilovers.html i was going to use them with an air bag system. Instead I'm now buying DPE G's full air-strut setup, looking to get $750 shipped/PP fees included for the coils.

ZETO34 07-04-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2884329)
OP, hit up NuGen, he's got a special running

I tried to send NuGen a PM but its saying username doesn't exist

ZETO34 07-04-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2884337)
Ooor i've got a set of BC's that I never installed. I bought them used here on the forum with 2k miles on them, http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...coilovers.html i was going to use them with an air bag system. Instead I'm now buying DPE G's full air-strut setup, looking to get $750 shipped/PP fees included for the coils.

Let me think on it, I wanted to just go ahead and buy them new but thats a steal. Yeah i'm planning on bags down the road

DEpointfive0 07-04-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZETO34 (Post 2884342)
I tried to send NuGen a PM but its saying username doesn't exist

It's NuGen auto I think

When you type in "NuGen", the rest should come up

Krazy.1K 07-04-2014 11:27 PM

Check with Lance at NextLevel Performance (1cleanZ), he hooked me up on set of KWV3.

synolimit 07-05-2014 01:51 PM

Stance with swifts.

bc looks to cheap from Taiwan I think and KW doesn't use swift, has no lower ride height adjuster, doesn't come with new top hats (have to use your own), and only OEM type setup. They look like crap to me vs a real set of coils for that price.

Seraphix 07-05-2014 04:08 PM

Brother has BC's, there good for what they are. I've been in cars with stance, tein, as well as most any other coils u can think of except for Aragosta (which I'm sure are amazing) nothing compares to the V3's to me. Durability, strength, track set up, ride comfort. Nothing compares. Yes they use the stock top hats, that's how their designed. Yes you cant adjust rebound on the fly for the rears without drilling a hole for access. But Mine are dialed in to 11 and they feel great for daily and are still hella firm. The ride quality, and quality over all are top notch. Had em on my G and now on my Z, there the only real choice for me. My .02

synolimit 07-05-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Seraphix (Post 2884849)
Brother has BC's, there good for what they are. I've been in cars with stance, tein, as well as most any other coils u can think of except for Aragosta (which I'm sure are amazing) nothing compares to the V3's to me. Durability, strength, track set up, ride comfort. Nothing compares. Yes they use the stock top hats, that's how their designed. Yes you cant adjust rebound on the fly for the rears without drilling a hole for access. But Mine are dialed in to 11 and they feel great for daily and are still hella firm. The ride quality, and quality over all are top notch. Had em on my G and now on my Z, there the only real choice for me. My .02

And what's your ride height? You cant adjust preload on the spring since they're both one in the same adjustment. Go to low you lose preload, get spring bind and popping over bumps since the springs loose and your car drives like crap in my eyes. For the price of theirs you can afford a two way from someone else and get so much more for a Z. Basing a coilover off of so many other cars isn't fair unless they all had the same tires, ride height, camber arms, bushings alignment etc. all effect how it runs.

Seraphix 07-05-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2884912)
And what's your ride height? You cant adjust preload on the spring since they're both one in the same adjustment. Go to low you lose preload, get spring bind and popping over bumps since the springs loose and your car drives like crap in my eyes. For the price of theirs you can afford a two way from someone else and get so much more for a Z. Basing a coilover off of so many other cars isn't fair unless they all had the same tires, ride height, camber arms, bushings alignment etc. all effect how it runs.



Ride height on the G was 25" middle of fender to ground front and rear. She was low, no issues what so ever. The Z is at 25.5", you can go much lower with the stance set up your right, but my car won't see 24" ride height territory. Plus the KW's weren't meant for that. And all the cars i was referring to that I have ridden in were G's different tires yes, alignment and toe were basically close, around -2 on camber, with most running spc arms. Not knocking stance, most guys slamming their rides static run em, and their great. But as far as kw's riding like crap, far from it brother, ride quality and workmanship are ridiculous, comfortable, planted, no squat when accelerating, steering is firm, and the more u push it the better it performs. And longevity on em aren't an issue. Had em for years on the G.

synolimit 07-05-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Seraphix (Post 2884958)
Ride height on the G was 25" middle of fender to ground front and rear. She was low, no issues what so ever. The Z is at 25.5", you can go much lower with the stance set up your right, but my car won't see 24" ride height territory. Plus the KW's weren't meant for that. And all the cars i was referring to that I have ridden in were G's different tires yes, alignment and toe were basically close, around -2 on camber, with most running spc arms. Not knocking stance, most guys slamming their rides static run em, and their great. But as far as kw's riding like crap, far from it brother, ride quality and workmanship are ridiculous, comfortable, planted, no squat when accelerating, steering is firm, and the more u push it the better it performs. And longevity on em aren't an issue. Had em for years on the G.

I don't like low anyways but lots do. I just think those guys will mess things up and more than just one way. I'm not saying they ride bad if set correctly. Most don't set correctly! Also it depends what you're doing with the car. For me with the price and what you get it's to much money and not enough performance. A street G is the exact opposite of my car though. I might have missed it but I need to see the OP's intentions.

PharmDZ 07-05-2014 07:08 PM

Posts like this are what get me confused about choice in coilovers. I hear such fantastic things about KW V3's, but then again I have to take it in context of how they're using them as well. I also understand that something like a true coilover system with more adjustability may be worthwhile for someone tracking their car. My car is slowly moving towards strictly track use, but it's a slow transformation. As for now I'm still putting 15-20k miles a year on it commuting as well. Guess we'll see what coils I'll be going for early next year.

synolimit 07-05-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ (Post 2885086)
Posts like this are what get me confused about choice in coilovers. I hear such fantastic things about KW V3's, but then again I have to take it in context of how they're using them as well. I also understand that something like a true coilover system with more adjustability may be worthwhile for someone tracking their car. My car is slowly moving towards strictly track use, but it's a slow transformation. As for now I'm still putting 15-20k miles a year on it commuting as well. Guess we'll see what coils I'll be going for early next year.

I was like you. Decided 2 way was best for all around use espessially for the track. Also I got custom valving with swift springs, external reservoirs and only paid $1999. Any other 2 way from Jrz or M something is 4-8k. For me just do it right the first time. I wouldn't worry about a 2 way DD car. Might be over kill but you'll always have it.

PEPI 07-05-2014 09:50 PM

Last week end I took a friends Sti Subaru around the track so he could 'feel' what it could do. He has an Accuair sports setup bag over shock style with e-levelling - incidentally he is actually using KW3 shock it self.

The ride was amazing - typical slight understeer as AWD do but hugging the corners and riding the ripples the car remained settled and didn't jump or lurch as it would normally.

At the end of the drive - he dropped it his Sti on it's belly....vey surreal.

Costs are and will be a concern - all told including labour $5-6K - but you could tell where the money went.
My point is best of both worlds I felt and drove - quite amazing. :)

ZETO34 07-05-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2884771)
Stance with swifts.

bc looks to cheap from Taiwan I think and KW doesn't use swift, has no lower ride height adjuster, doesn't come with new top hats (have to use your own), and only OEM type setup. They look like crap to me vs a real set of coils for that price.

I'm considering the stance with swifts, was just talking today with a friend about them. I'd like to track occasionally but stance is my main aim. I wanna dial in right above wheel, no tucking until bags come along

synolimit 07-06-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZETO34 (Post 2885226)
I'm considering the stance with swifts, was just talking today with a friend about them. I'd like to track occasionally but stance is my main aim. I wanna dial in right above wheel, no tucking until bags come along

Well just figure the cars use then go from there. Figure price into it too etc.

what someone told me to get me to pick was customer based. kW might be awesome for street and maybe light track but how's their service? Do they service? Can they revalve and will they? Can you upgrade to swift springs? Whats the cost of maintenance? Etc etc ect.

I went with Adam-race consulting. He's a block away for stance. He and stance talk all the time so service is there!! Maintenance, revalving, upgrading, consulting etc etc are there at my finger tips! I can call either one and get what I need. Again 2 ways from jrz are $9000. I have no idea why they are 9k vs stance at 2k, but stance and Adam being close in Chicago makes me feel better and I think I'll be good with my purchase. Maybe give Adam a shout on FB and talk with him like he has with me. My names scott. See what he says and if you can't afford the 2 ways see whats up with the pro and pro SS's.


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