ABS with Carbotechs

edconline · 05-06-2014, 02:17 AM

So I recently installed Carbotech XP10 front and XP8 rear pads and let me just say - insane. Night and day difference from the Racing Brake pads I was using, it's easy to eat dash now!

One thing I was wondering from the other CT users out there, with hard brake application is it normal for you to get ABS engaging? I would almost never have ABS kick in with my last pads on dry pavement, no matter how hard I pressed the brakes. With these though, even on dry roads I'm getting ABS with 80% or higher application, is it because they are biting so much harder they are locking the tires?

Not a big issue either way, just curious. The squealing brakes is pretty funny as well, not something that bothers me so I just chuckle when I roll to a stop and people look over thinking 'damn dude change your pads already!'

synolimit · 05-06-2014, 02:31 AM

I know "ice mode" can happen much easier but since you used 10/8 I don't think it happens much. Just be careful!

Ps love the squealing comment!

cossie1600 · 05-06-2014, 04:20 AM

Yes be careful

takjak2 · 05-06-2014, 10:55 AM

Yes, these race pads will have much higher bite, particularly with street tires on the street. When you get then up to track temps you can squeeze on them real well

edconline · 05-06-2014, 01:00 PM

Thanks guys. I'm always careful

I didn't think ice mode was something I have to worry about with just the 10/8 combo, maybe I'm mistaken? I seemed to recall it was happening to people that had added a BBK or were using XP12's and up?

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cossie1600 · 05-06-2014, 04:37 PM

No there is too much bite from the 10. The front pads have more impact than the rear.

edconline · 05-06-2014, 04:42 PM

Gotcha. Well I do have XP8's on hand for the front in case the 10's prove too much

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synolimit · 05-06-2014, 06:43 PM

You DDing them?

edconline · 05-06-2014, 06:56 PM

You bet!

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takjak2 · 05-06-2014, 06:58 PM

Not suggested. They are strictly worse than OEM for street duty

edconline · 05-06-2014, 07:00 PM

Lol well having had oem brake pads on there, I can assure you these stop a lot faster even when cold. It's also not suggested to double the PSL on a regular basis but that generally happens too

I've heard that before, but other than dust or noise I'm not sure why you wouldn't want these on the street. Good cold bite and massive warm/hot bite.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I appreciate advice. Just my definition of street duty and the general definition is a good distance apart. When you live your life 1/4 mile at a time, are you really still street driving?

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synolimit · 05-06-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline

You bet!

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Nice. I REALLY don't feel like swapping in and out. I'll probably be fine.

edconline · 05-06-2014, 09:47 PM

Oh ya, I think you'll be good. Like I said, suuuuuper squeaky on the street lol, but it's a small price to pay for slowing the rotation of the earth every time you hammer on the center pedal.

DR_ · 05-07-2014, 09:36 AM

With the Hard Brakes titanium backing plates they don't squeal on the street near as much.

edconline · 05-07-2014, 09:53 AM

Oh ya? Hmm might be worth the investment

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05-06-2014, 02:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	ABS with Carbotechs So I recently installed Carbotech XP10 front and XP8 rear pads and let me just say - insane. Night and day difference from the Racing Brake pads I was using, it's easy to eat dash now! One thing I was wondering from the other CT users out there, with hard brake application is it normal for you to get ABS engaging? I would almost never have ABS kick in with my last pads on dry pavement, no matter how hard I pressed the brakes. With these though, even on dry roads I'm getting ABS with 80% or higher application, is it because they are biting so much harder they are locking the tires? Not a big issue either way, just curious. The squealing brakes is pretty funny as well, not something that bothers me so I just chuckle when I roll to a stop and people look over thinking 'damn dude change your pads already!' synolimit likes this. __________________ View Journal Audio Build

05-06-2014, 02:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	I know "ice mode" can happen much easier but since you used 10/8 I don't think it happens much. Just be careful! Ps love the squealing comment! __________________ 13 370z-

05-06-2014, 10:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 143	Yes, these race pads will have much higher bite, particularly with street tires on the street. When you get then up to track temps you can squeeze on them real well edconline likes this. __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed

05-06-2014, 01:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	Thanks guys. I'm always careful I didn't think ice mode was something I have to worry about with just the 10/8 combo, maybe I'm mistaken? I seemed to recall it was happening to people that had added a BBK or were using XP12's and up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ View Journal Audio Build

05-06-2014, 04:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	Gotcha. Well I do have XP8's on hand for the front in case the 10's prove too much Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ View Journal Audio Build

05-06-2014, 04:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Yes be careful

05-06-2014, 04:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	No there is too much bite from the 10. The front pads have more impact than the rear.

05-06-2014, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	You DDing them? __________________ 13 370z-

05-06-2014, 06:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	You bet! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ View Journal Audio Build

05-06-2014, 06:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 143	Not suggested. They are strictly worse than OEM for street duty __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed

05-06-2014, 07:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	ABS with Carbotechs Lol well having had oem brake pads on there, I can assure you these stop a lot faster even when cold. It's also not suggested to double the PSL on a regular basis but that generally happens too I've heard that before, but other than dust or noise I'm not sure why you wouldn't want these on the street. Good cold bite and massive warm/hot bite. Edit: Don't get me wrong, I appreciate advice. Just my definition of street duty and the general definition is a good distance apart. When you live your life 1/4 mile at a time, are you really still street driving? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ View Journal Audio Build Last edited by edconline; 05-06-2014 at 07:11 PM.

05-06-2014, 09:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	Oh ya, I think you'll be good. Like I said, suuuuuper squeaky on the street lol, but it's a small price to pay for slowing the rotation of the earth every time you hammer on the center pedal. synolimit likes this. __________________ View Journal Audio Build

05-07-2014, 09:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	With the Hard Brakes titanium backing plates they don't squeal on the street near as much. edconline likes this.

05-07-2014, 09:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	Oh ya? Hmm might be worth the investment Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ View Journal Audio Build

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