SPL rear titanium mid links, springs???

DEpointfive0 · 02-10-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauskycop

Helper spring FTW...

Tracy Ramsey

I don't think you can do that for the rears

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

Here you go. The reason I suggested rotating the springs was as you can see in my pics, the spring is not compressed perfectly up and down. The thought was maybe the way the spring was compressing two of the coils were coming together.

Another thought, is there any chance your shocks are binding somewhere through their stroke? I know my shocks have a spherical upper mount to help them articulate better. Maybe yours are just sticking and the pop is when they release.

By the way you owe me one now. Laying on a cold concrete floor in ~20° weather sucks.

Thank you, and please gimme your PayPal.

Mine:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...0461269B15.jpg

Last night I adjusted the buckets all the way up... Still clanks like crazy

As for the strut binding, how would I know/check? (The sound is DEFINITEY) from the springs though.

DR_ · 02-10-2016, 12:22 PM

Did you adjust your shock height so that on full droop it doesn't unseat the spring?

sandersd · 02-10-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

I'm worried about something if someone can help...

I installed the spl mid links and the 6" swift 10kg springs. The car is at a ride height of 26 3/16th on both sides. I don't remember where the car sat before the install with the swift spec-r's. I know it was 26 something, I think high 26. The spl mid link is about half way to get to that height and where spl said it should be.

The issue is if I jack the car up the spring almost falls out of the bucket. If this happened it'd be a total crash or worse! So basically I have zero preload if that's what you call it. I've seen Z's on three wheels before so there is a chance the spring could pop out on a track. Not to mention the loud banging all the time as the spring pops in and out over big holes all the time beating up the upper and lower buckets.

What do I do? Buy an adjustable length shock?

Almost popping out, only one side jacked up.

What did SPL say when you contacted them with your concerns?

DEpointfive0 · 02-10-2016, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_

Did you adjust your shock height so that on full droop it doesn't unseat the spring?

Ok... So...

KW V3s don't have adjustable shock heights... I'm SOL as of now I guess... I've been so busy I can only contact SPL by email after hours.

synolimit · 02-11-2016, 03:41 AM

Have you checked your bushing? Is the pop maybe coming from the knuckle bushing?

synolimit · 02-11-2016, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sandersd

What did SPL say when you contacted them with your concerns?

They advised to run a 7" vs a 6" but then stopped when i stated that wouldnt make sence with the ride height i wanted. If 6" is dead center on the adjuster then 7" would just force me to lower the adjuster putting it not dead center but have it 1" lower unless i wanted to look like a 4x4. They agreed and i just left it. After some time the spring stayed solid even when jacking the car up. I never had issues and the car tracked perfect even tight fast autox events. Only time i thought there was a problem was when i fully unloaded the spring when jacking the car up with in first few times i did it. Idk why it got tighter over time but they did and i never had noise DE is stating.

synolimit · 02-11-2016, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Bump for a problem.

I just installed mine. When I go into any driveway I 3 wheel essentially, and you can hear the spring "pop" like it's going to pop out.

This normal?

Late to the party but i dont see how to stop it. Mine stopped getting loose over time. Maybe after a lot of autox. It gets loose because the suspensions unloaded. Only way i can think to fix is 1. Jack the car way up so the spring is always loaded when the cars off the ground but good luck with the 4x4 look or 2. Get a rear shock to keep preload on the spring when off the ground. True coils FTW

synolimit · 02-11-2016, 03:53 AM

Maybe my oem shocks blew or something and couldnt travel down as far after a season of racing??

DR_ · 02-11-2016, 10:00 AM

My BC coilovers (ER series) are not true type but have an adjustment on the stock to control the length. In this picture you can see the rear shock (one without the spring on it) has a threaded body. You adjust that so that when completely unloaded the spring does not come unseated, basically keeping a small amount of preload on it.

DEpointfive0 · 02-11-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Have you checked your bushing? Is the pop maybe coming from the knuckle bushing?

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Originally Posted by synolimit

They advised to run a 7" vs a 6" but then stopped when i stated that wouldnt make sence with the ride height i wanted. If 6" is dead center on the adjuster then 7" would just force me to lower the adjuster putting it not dead center but have it 1" lower unless i wanted to look like a 4x4. They agreed and i just left it. After some time the spring stayed solid even when jacking the car up. I never had issues and the car tracked perfect even tight fast autox events. Only time i thought there was a problem was when i fully unloaded the spring when jacking the car up with in first few times i did it. Idk why it got tighter over time but they did and i never had noise DE is stating.

I have 7" springs, but no 4x4 height. The perches are all the way up, and it's at OEM height, or close to it

I haven't checked the bushing, but nothing was out of the norm. I can hear the spring decompressing when I'm going over a bump...
I'm also at the extreme of adjustment on the arm too

DEpointfive0 · 02-12-2016, 01:20 PM

I've put SPL through hell and back the last couple of days. There have been some oddities with my car aside from the spring sitting shítty. They're going to send me a "prototype" part to help me out in a few weeks once it's closer to actual production.

Not sure how much info they want me to keep, but... It's a good design, and so far it looks like just my car has this issue...

gomer_110 · 02-12-2016, 03:26 PM

So your problem was all caused by the springs not sitting properly?

DEpointfive0 · 02-12-2016, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

So your problem was all caused by the springs not sitting properly?

Still is. For some reason on my car the spring is like an inch off center. No good solution yet

If anyone has pics of their adjuster, I'd like to see how much it's threaded out.

synolimit · 02-12-2016, 09:17 PM

Well since I DIDNT f*^k the guy who clames I did who I sold my links to cause they were perfect on my car, maybe yours are 350z's? Even though I doubt that's an issue because I gave away my oem buckets to a 350z guy and he has no issue. So idk

synolimit · 02-12-2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I have 7" springs, but no 4x4 height. The perches are all the way up, and it's at OEM height, or close to it

I haven't checked the bushing, but nothing was out of the norm. I can hear the spring decompressing when I'm going over a bump...
I'm also at the extreme of adjustment on the arm too

I think that's a prob then. A 7" spring at oem heights probably putting it at an odd angle. You saw my pics and gomers, 6" spring with adjuster at half way and straight when compressed. You need to slam it or go 6".

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02-11-2016, 10:00 AM	#54 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	My BC coilovers (ER series) are not true type but have an adjustment on the stock to control the length. In this picture you can see the rear shock (one without the spring on it) has a threaded body. You adjust that so that when completely unloaded the spring does not come unseated, basically keeping a small amount of preload on it.

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synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Well since I DIDNT f*^k the guy who clames I did who I sold my links to cause they were perfect on my car, maybe yours are 350z's? Even though I doubt that's an issue because I gave away my oem buckets to a 350z guy and he has no issue. So idk __________________ 13 370z-

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