I need help selecting new pads&rotors...

Chuck33079 · 03-10-2014, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GSS138

There is no best brand, but there are different brands for your budget and for your application.

Are you tracking, street driving etc. Tell us your overall budget and what you use the car for. Brakes are a bit like stereo equipment imo... You can buy a $200, $2000, or $200000 pair of speakers, and you will get what you pay for.

He's driving on the street like it's the track.

I don't think there's really a good pad for that.

DjSquall · 03-11-2014, 10:59 AM

^ yeah I'm pretty sure I made my driving habits pretty obvious... Got the parts yesterday, which is great news, but I also messed up my ankle and can't walk/drive right now lol!

So, any bets on how fast I can kill these new Z1 brakes?

Chuck33079 · 03-11-2014, 11:00 AM

2 weeks. If I win you make me the beneficiary of your life insurance.

Sh0velMan · 03-11-2014, 12:42 PM

Posiquiets are awful if you actually put any heat into your brakes.

Next time get CL RC5+'s. They're loud and messy for a street pad but you'll **** yourself the first time you lay in to them. They'll also last a really long time.

Vicster · 03-24-2014, 07:23 PM

I can definitely feel DjSquall - I'm going on 30k miles and I have already had my rotors turned twice due to lateral runoff. I DO NOT drive like a crazy person, but I do about 90 miles a day here in the Washington Metro Area which typically consists of part highway and part stop and go traffic on the regular. (Usually half and half on a daily trip..) On the highway I cruse between 65-75 but usually just at 70 and very rarely do I need to stop hard in traffic as I tend to keep a comfortable distance. In traffic I do no accelerate quickly and due to that, I do not need to brake hard or long. I engine brake down hill often (but only when necessary), and sometimes at stops. I have tried modifying my braking from high pressure braking, low pressure, full on, and intermittent. I just want to put emphasis on the fact that I am not driving wild on my regular commute yet I do see see the same symptoms.

The only thing I have not done yet is dropping it into neutral (or the handbrake idea) at stops to lay off the brakes, but I do find it odd that I would be building that much heat in the first place. (It's not like I'm trying to set the brakes doing 80mph hard braking then keeping the brake depressed to the hot rotor.) Could my limited amount of stop and go traffic (1/2 my day = ~45 miles with may half of that S&G = ~22.5 miles) really be heating the rotors up that significantly to cause deposits?

I have an extended warranty so the dealer turns the rotors for free, but I don't agree with their "lead engineers" when it comes to the number of times you should turn a rotor on our vehicles. When I asked them, "how many times do you turn them before you will just replace them" the answer was essentially indefinitely (which is a load of ******** if you ask me). Probably the same guy that told me you can't clean our MAFs. So as much as I want to take advantage of this, I would also love to forego it by just replacing with something that may cool better since it sounds like they will inevitably just keep turning the rotors. But from what it sounds like, folks here are not recommending the drilled/slotted. Ultimately, I will probably have them turned one more time before absolutely DEMANDING that they replace the rotors under warranty but I just wanted to say, what gives here?!?

JARblue · 03-25-2014, 02:47 PM

Vic,

I'm interested in your evaluation that you are not hard on brakes yet have turned your rotors multiple times in 30K miles. Maybe there is something else at play here - nothing you've said makes me think you are heating up your brakes excessively (although note that riding the brakes, even just lightly, for lengthy distances can do it).

If you like the cosmetic aspect of drilled and slotted rotors, go for it. You'll be fine for street driving. Some people maintain that because cross drilled rotors are weaker than non-drilled rotors, they are not a good choice for tracking.

Bossless1 · 03-25-2014, 05:06 PM

Big shout out to Josh@Z1 Motorsports! I needed some brake pads in a hurry (due to my own lack of planning). I called him up... got some great advice on the best fit for what I needed...ordered the parts...paid for them over the phone and got them shipped overnight - all in under 10 minutes!

Thanks Josh! Great job. Look forward to meeting you in October!

edconline · 03-25-2014, 07:17 PM

This is the year I make the move to try out XP8's all around. Want a pad that is fine on the street, and can be tracked on too. Dust and some noise don't bother me, my key consideration is I want something that just a light touch on the brakes gives me the same windshield-eating bite as the first time I tried left foot braking.

Sh0velMan · 03-27-2014, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edconline

This is the year I make the move to try out XP8's all around. Want a pad that is fine on the street, and can be tracked on too. Dust and some noise don't bother me, my key consideration is I want something that just a light touch on the brakes gives me the same windshield-eating bite as the first time I tried left foot braking.

CL RC6 or RC5+ if you want a more mild pad.

edconline · 03-27-2014, 08:58 PM

Thanks for the info! I'm looking for something pretty hardcore, so hopefully the XP8's are the right fit. I don't think I'll get into them and think they are too much.

josh@z1 · 03-28-2014, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossless1

Big shout out to Josh@Z1 Motorsports! I needed some brake pads in a hurry (due to my own lack of planning). I called him up... got some great advice on the best fit for what I needed...ordered the parts...paid for them over the phone and got them shipped overnight - all in under 10 minutes!

Thanks Josh! Great job. Look forward to meeting you in October!

Thank you sir!! It was a pleasure and let me know if I can help you with anything else!

03-11-2014, 11:00 AM	#33 (permalink)
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03-11-2014, 12:42 PM	#34 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	Posiquiets are awful if you actually put any heat into your brakes. Next time get CL RC5+'s. They're loud and messy for a street pad but you'll ** yourself the first time you lay in to them. They'll also last a really long time. __________________ Buy My Car!** \| Build Thread

03-24-2014, 07:23 PM	#35 (permalink)
Vicster Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pflugerville, TX Posts: 425 Drives: 2013 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 13	I can definitely feel DjSquall - I'm going on 30k miles and I have already had my rotors turned twice due to lateral runoff. I DO NOT drive like a crazy person, but I do about 90 miles a day here in the Washington Metro Area which typically consists of part highway and part stop and go traffic on the regular. (Usually half and half on a daily trip..) On the highway I cruse between 65-75 but usually just at 70 and very rarely do I need to stop hard in traffic as I tend to keep a comfortable distance. In traffic I do no accelerate quickly and due to that, I do not need to brake hard or long. I engine brake down hill often (but only when necessary), and sometimes at stops. I have tried modifying my braking from high pressure braking, low pressure, full on, and intermittent. I just want to put emphasis on the fact that I am not driving wild on my regular commute yet I do see see the same symptoms. The only thing I have not done yet is dropping it into neutral (or the handbrake idea) at stops to lay off the brakes, but I do find it odd that I would be building that much heat in the first place. (It's not like I'm trying to set the brakes doing 80mph hard braking then keeping the brake depressed to the hot rotor.) Could my limited amount of stop and go traffic (1/2 my day = ~45 miles with may half of that S&G = ~22.5 miles) really be heating the rotors up that significantly to cause deposits? I have an extended warranty so the dealer turns the rotors for free, but I don't agree with their "lead engineers" when it comes to the number of times you should turn a rotor on our vehicles. When I asked them, "how many times do you turn them before you will just replace them" the answer was essentially indefinitely (which is a load of ******** if you ask me). Probably the same guy that told me you can't clean our MAFs. So as much as I want to take advantage of this, I would also love to forego it by just replacing with something that may cool better since it sounds like they will inevitably just keep turning the rotors. But from what it sounds like, folks here are not recommending the drilled/slotted. Ultimately, I will probably have them turned one more time before absolutely DEMANDING that they replace the rotors under warranty but I just wanted to say, what gives here?!? DjSquall likes this. __________________ -Chris '13 Z34 Touring Sport \| ARK GRiP CBE \| Stillen G3 CAI \| AAM HFC \| UpRev \| 20mm Z1 Spacers \| StopTech Drilled/Slotted Rotors \| StopTech SS Lines

03-25-2014, 02:47 PM	#36 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Vic, I'm interested in your evaluation that you are not hard on brakes yet have turned your rotors multiple times in 30K miles. Maybe there is something else at play here - nothing you've said makes me think you are heating up your brakes excessively (although note that riding the brakes, even just lightly, for lengthy distances can do it). If you like the cosmetic aspect of drilled and slotted rotors, go for it. You'll be fine for street driving. Some people maintain that because cross drilled rotors are weaker than non-drilled rotors, they are not a good choice for tracking. Vicster likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-25-2014, 05:06 PM	#37 (permalink)
Bossless1 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ocala, Florida Posts: 113 Drives: mostly in left lane Rep Power: 11	Big shout out to Josh@Z1 Motorsports! I needed some brake pads in a hurry (due to my own lack of planning). I called him up... got some great advice on the best fit for what I needed...ordered the parts...paid for them over the phone and got them shipped overnight - all in under 10 minutes! Thanks Josh! Great job. Look forward to meeting you in October! __________________ *F.I. CBE & HFC's :: Stillen Gen 3 :: Stop Tech :: Z1 :: K&N :: Custom Rays :: GTR SSB & Lenses :: Z Speed :: PW:JDM*

03-11-2014, 10:59 AM	#32 (permalink)
DjSquall A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tottenham, ON Age: 36 Posts: 1,340 Drives: My first car Rep Power: 22	^ yeah I'm pretty sure I made my driving habits pretty obvious... Got the parts yesterday, which is great news, but I also messed up my ankle and can't walk/drive right now lol! So, any bets on how fast I can kill these new Z1 brakes?

03-25-2014, 07:17 PM	#38 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	This is the year I make the move to try out XP8's all around. Want a pad that is fine on the street, and can be tracked on too. Dust and some noise don't bother me, my key consideration is I want something that just a light touch on the brakes gives me the same windshield-eating bite as the first time I tried left foot braking. __________________ View Journal Audio Build

03-27-2014, 08:58 PM	#40 (permalink)
edconline Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton Posts: 855 Drives: 10' MB Z34 6MT T/S/N Rep Power: 22	Thanks for the info! I'm looking for something pretty hardcore, so hopefully the XP8's are the right fit. I don't think I'll get into them and think they are too much. __________________ View Journal Audio Build

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