stillen sways...need end link opinions!

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 03:19 PM

mitco also searching google... it's a race.

Chuck33079 · 02-11-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

ha?

What's confusing? If you never greased the sway bar bushings, the bar binding will tear up the endlink.

Chuck33079 · 02-11-2014, 03:20 PM

I didn't think I needed to clarify that there isn't a bushing on the endlink to grease. Because we're not retarded.

Riptide67 · 02-11-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

if you're planning on using no stiffer than the middle setting on the front, i suppose you might be okay. it is about the same stiffness as my whiteline's soft setting. this is going by manufacturer % in stiffness, so it is still just a guess. just because you have 2 bars doesnt mean you need to use both of them.

im sure you have screws in your garage you're not using. are you going to just screw them in your car just because you have them? lol

I know that I don't need to use them both and the screws laying around the garage, along with some nuts have saved my *** from time to time

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riptide67

I know that I don't need to use them both and the screws laying around the garage, along with some nuts have saved my *** from time to time

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

What's confusing? If you never greased the sway bar bushings, the bar binding will tear up the endlink.

well, greasing the bushing inside out is a given.

and bushings breaking apart (poly compound) before endlinks (ball joint) is also a given.

Chuck33079 · 02-11-2014, 03:26 PM

The balljoint can and will pop out of its socket if the bar is binding.

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The balljoint can and will pop out of its socket if the bar is binding.

binded just by ungreased bushings? lol

one must be totally deaf not to first detect rowing boat squeaks and creaks prior to so much binding that it seizes the frikken bar??

i want to see poly bushing that is so frikken stiff that it equals the strength of bar being welded to the frame.

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 03:33 PM

so riptide- grease your bushings inside out before install.

otherwise your endlinks will pop out. lol

i use white lithium grease.

Riptide67 · 02-11-2014, 03:38 PM

Noted, Kenchan. I think for the time being, I am just going to order the rear SPL endlinks. If the fronts take a ****, then so be it. I will replace them when/if they do.

God help me

Chuck33079 · 02-11-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

binded just by ungreased bushings? lol

one must be totally deaf not to first detect rowing boat squeaks and creaks prior to so much binding that it seizes the frikken bar??

i want to see poly bushing that is so frikken stiff that it equals the strength of bar being welded to the frame.

I popped the ball out of a OE rear on a very steep parking lot entrance. No knocking beforehand. It's loud.

You'll think something a lot more important than an endlink snapped.

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I popped the ball out of a OE rear on a very steep parking lot entrance. No knocking beforehand. It's loud.

You'll think something a lot more important than an endlink snapped.

wow that's crazy.

but thats not from sized bushings though. you extended the bar and suspension beyond the designed geometry.

Chuck33079 · 02-11-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

wow that's crazy.

but thats not from sized bushings though. you extended the bar and suspension beyond the designed geometry.

Had the bar been sufficiently lubed, it had the travel to accomodate the angle. Give it a try- it sounds like you've been shot at. Almost cost me a pair of shorts.

kenchan · 02-11-2014, 04:15 PM

lol, even a loose balljoint makes pretty loud knocking noise, i can only image how a mass torsion sprung ball joint sounds when it snaps.

1slow370 · 02-12-2014, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

well, greasing the bushing inside out is a given.

and bushings breaking apart (poly compound) before endlinks (ball joint) is also a given.

bar endlinks are much more susceptible to wear and damage than people think, it is much more common to find broken endlinks than torn up bushings it doesn't take an unimaginable amount of force to rip a ball and socket joint apart especially under the high angles and loads a lot of aftermarket bars put them at.

02-11-2014, 03:20 PM	#33 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I didn't think I needed to clarify that there isn't a bushing on the endlink to grease. Because we're not retarded. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	The balljoint can and will pop out of its socket if the bar is binding. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	so riptide- grease your bushings inside out before install. otherwise your endlinks will pop out. lol i use white lithium grease. Riptide67 likes this.

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Riptide67 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Age: 37 Posts: 1,610 Drives: 09 Nismo #0483 PW Rep Power: 69	Noted, Kenchan. I think for the time being, I am just going to order the rear SPL endlinks. If the fronts take a ****, then so be it. I will replace them when/if they do. God help me kenchan likes this. __________________ 2009 Nismo 370Z and 1975 Datsun 280Z 2+2 - PNW_INC - Legacy_Ohana Follow me on Instagam @s3zero_z3four

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	lol, even a loose balljoint makes pretty loud knocking noise, i can only image how a mass torsion sprung ball joint sounds when it snaps.