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Originally Posted by synolimit So whats that mean for me? If I want zero toe rear, slight toe out front what do I do? Your degree numbers are different than

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Old 02-05-2014, 12:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So whats that mean for me? If I want zero toe rear, slight toe out front what do I do?

Your degree numbers are different than what Hunter is saying. But you said those numbers off a 19" wheel. He out in the Hunter I have 18's. So I'm assuming that's why mine are different than what you said? Doesn't really matter though since I know what I want. I could care less about what the specs are.
As I said earlier rim size does NOT affect angle measurements just distance measurements

Nope my spec numbers are from the factory manual hunters are wrong, that or it was a different type of alignment test and they fudged the numbers to get the alignment to actually be the same as factory (nissan says the car should be tested in unladden condition on a thrust type alignment machine) if you want them to set 0 toe rear then have them align the rear wheels to 0 degrees, slight toe out in the front on that machine would be -.05 to -.11

in the factory manual the front toe is IN 3minutes to IN 7 minutes
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As I said earlier rim size does NOT affect angle measurements just distance measurements

Nope my spec numbers are from the factory manual hunters are wrong, that or it was a different type of alignment test and they fudged the numbers to get the alignment to actually be the same as factory (nissan says the car should be tested in unladden condition on a thrust type alignment machine) if you want them to set 0 toe rear then have them align the rear wheels to 0 degrees, slight toe out in the front on that machine would be -.05 to -.11

in the factory manual the front toe is IN 3minutes to IN 7 minutes
Yes I heard you. I said I wonder if that's where the different spec numbers are coming from. But I'm sure now seeing what you wrote that you're right that Hunter is wrong as I've seen several different spec numbers from people posting pics up.

As for rear toe going to zero, how much do you think I need to adjust the offset hole on the new plates? As you can see in my pics, the current offset holes can go about a 1/8th more inward before it's maxed out. Any idea what 0.18* is in length? I'd rather not mess with that plate so I might just leave it the way it is. As for the right at 0.46* I know for sure I'll be moving that hole over in the plate.

As for the front. You say go negative in numbers. But why then is the black arrows pointing more outward already? I watched as he did it individually on the screen and he did -0.03* but when it was over and the computer printed out the specs they now both so +0.08*.

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Right. The glare is hiding the washer. This side isn't more inward on the plate, it just looks that way.

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You guys make these subjects more complicated than they are. Thinking to much. Basic principle only.
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I'm trying. But I need basic math to move the plates to get rear right toe lower. As for the front I'll leave it till I buy new arms and fix everything.
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if both rear wheels were at .46degrees then total toe in the rear would be .32"
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if both rear wheels were at .46degrees then total toe in the rear would be .32"
Lol thanks slow. I'll try the 1/8" then. If half that's 0.16 then 0.125 should get me close.

My wheel bases are different. Right is like 2/16th longer. If I move it I'll get some toe there also.
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Just remember toe length is a -b so to correct .160 u only need to move .08

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A few more questions for you. I want to see how good I am at measuring toe with a tape measure. Before the alignment at home I measured that the rear was toe'd in 0.34". When I first got on the machine the total toe in was 0.73 degrees. Are these numbers close for one being length and one being degrees?

Last, I took off the right toe plates and measured from the edge to where the hole starts and got 0.38". You can only make the toe plates go down to 0.26" because that's where the subframe hole ends with 0.26" before you get to the knotches in the subframe that holds the plates. So that's what I did. The right side is now maxed out pulled in with the plates 0.11" more then they were. What do you think that is in degrees now when I started at 0.46*?

I measured again after (not before like a dummy) with a tape measure and it looks like now that I'm toed out. Looks to be 2/16th out.
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