SPC front camber arms?
 

I don't track my car, but my swift lowering springs have my front tires showing pretty bad negative camber. I have SPC camber arms in the rear pulling the rears into about -1.5, are the SPC front arms ok for DD with some "aggressive" driving occasionally? Don't want to be paying for an alignment every other day either...

Probably ok. I'd go AMS or kinetix though if you're worried about alignment. AMS are $179

Front arms are only 179?

AMS 370Z FRONT ADJUSTABLE CAMBER ARM - Suspension - 370Z / G37

I however would replace the bushings and tie rob bearing.

Wow that's a fantastic price. I haven't seen those ones yet. How are the reviews on them?

Don't think anyone buys them here. Ams says they've sold thousands! It's the same as the kinetix. I don't know why people have negative stuff to say though. Its a solid chunk of steel that can't slip alignment. What more do you want? Who gives a **** if it heavy and not pretty, they work. The bushings might suck but that is easily replaced when you're paying $179. Only thing track guys need to do is grind the lock nut down thinner and the part the tie rod bearing screws into to get more negative camber. -3.0 is doable.

Not sure these are ams or kinetix or custom but its the same thing with real bearings!

Terrible, lol.
They're all roughly the same design until you get the SPLs.
And while SPC doesn't have great reviews, there are probably 50 times as many. And if you don't have a problem with it, 9 out of 10 times you aren't inclined to tell people that they work well for you. So you'll see a lot of bad reviews for a lot of things. Just keep it in mind

Lol. Yeahhhhh. Especially if you're not tracking, almost anything is better than stock.

I don't get your meaning.

I'm agreeing with you. My sentence sucked, my bad. Been at work for 18 hours after 2 hours of sleep

For the front, I wouldn't cheap out. Go with SPL.

I'd agree for the rear but again these solid steel arms aren't going to break and give enough camber. If you want caster etc go spl.

Why no tracking?

For no track and occasional spirited driving what is recommended? I just don't want my front tires chewed up and the price of spl is insane.

Ams or kinetix. Zero chance to slip and will stay at whatever you put it during the alignment.

Is that 179 for both arms or a piece?

I'm on SPC for more than 10k miles already and zero issues, but as Andrew(DEpoint5) said you'll def hear a lot of bad reviews on everything. That's just normal ;)

Lol

The pictured arms are custom. They are steel arms in the AMS/Kinetix design but with metal sphericals. I have a set to sell for $400. PM me.

AMS (the Canadian one) makes Chinese knockoff junk. The Z32 guys started a petition to get them banned from ZCON. They're not the good AMS in Chicago that makes cool stuff. They even knocked off their name to piggyback off a successful shop. SPC is fine for daily driving. They've sold multiple times as many parts as the competition and we haven't heard that many stories about them breaking. You can break anything on track.


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I would like to get spl but scca rules don't allow it.

What ftlbs you torque the top nut to?

I'm not sure, those were done by my mechanic

Is the front toe adjustable?

Another reason to hate SCCA!

I went with Kinetix as right now mine is just a street car. No need for the SPL. SPC is fine but looks like it could slip (probably won't on a street car, though.) Shouldn't have to worry about that with the Kinetix. You just need to make sure the rod end is well lubed (get some white lithium grease) and the poly bushings are greased well with a waterproof silicone lube (like Hotchkis suspension grease.)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Y...102142132a.jpg

Not installing until Spring so I can't report on the function, but they look like they will do the job just fine. Just remember it's a maintenance item so make sure you have a grease gun with good poly bushing lube and some white lithium grease in spray can to keep the rod end happy.

Well to me steel is steel and as long as the welds look ok I'm sure they will be fine. If it was a fitment part or something else I'd worry. I have lots of Chinese stuff. All is holding up well.

Are the tubes hollow or solid?

Hollow... tube steel.

I will be picking up the Kinetix arms as well for a spring install. :tup:

Yea, with the tie rod ends. That's the only thing adjustable on a stock front end.

Is there typically enough adjustment to get it as close to zero as possible with swift lowering springs and camber arms to get back to stock camber?

To adjust the front toe with the tie rod ends. No problem. Stock upper arms are non-adjustable for camber.

I'm so torn on what front arms to get. I am on bc coils and need a set. I love my spc rears and currently am not tracking. Ams and kinetix have awful reviews, but I fear the possibility of slipping with spc.

What are the bad reviews on the kinetix?

There are none. Just people bitching that its not made of gold. I've never seen a failure or complaint against performance. Just that they don't like it or "it doesn't look ideal" wtf that's supposed to mean. If it doesn't break and it adjust camber what do you want? Unless you need caster adjust etc in a $800 SPL arm.

Let me rephrase. Not necessarily the kinetic having a bad review, but the ams being a knob off. It's basically half the price.

Do I spend $335 on spc or $179 on ams?

Does anyone have the recommended bushings and tie rod bearing to swap out on the ams arms?

In a world of "you get what you pay for", I could not justify spending $179 on front camber arms.

I'd say both the kinetix and spc look good enough though, with the edge on the SPC because they have a huge market of people that actually use them. If I ONLY see one or two bad reviews out of the 100s of people that run them, then I think they are doing OK. From a quality standpoint, 99% FPQ is pretty damn good for mechanical items. My only gripe is KINETIX website is AWFUL, which is a big factor on my personal peace of mind.

If you are tracking your car though, $700 for front camber arms is CHUMP CHANGE compared to the grand scheme of things when you do anything on the track. A few track sessions alone punts you up to $700 easily.

I plan on buying ams, checking the welds and reenforcing them if need be. On the bends I might weld a bracket or rod from end to end to make a triangle part. Steels steel so I'm sure they'll be tough. Better to have them steel than aluminium you have no idea how it was made. The bushings are definitely getting replaced with the delrin? Or something? And the tie rod end can be replaced anytime which again ill replace because both ams and kinetix look like they're cast and forged/milled is better/stronger like SPL...

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When done I may have kinetix money into it but it will be much better.

I agree id rather have cheap steel over cheap aluminum but not sure what "steels steel" is referring to, since not all steel is the same


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