So confusing from reading other posts!!!

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Lol. I meant what I said in a positive way. People fall for that one line or one story not acknowledging how much use some of these had in the track (some will eventually fail) and not consider how successful the brand is. All it takes is one bad story and the reputation of the brand is toast.

Ohhhhhhh, I read your comment wrong, lol

And yeah for sure I agree

zguynate · 10-03-2013, 12:45 AM

You WILL need rear camber arms and toe bolts to get back into factory spec. No way around that.

I had SPC arms on my 350z. I drifted into a curb being a moron and did some good damage to the suspension. The SPC arm didn't break. It actually bent, which is expected when you hit a curb sideways. I wouldnt be afraid of the SPC arms breaking at all. I have SPL on my 370. It is by far the best quality suspension arm I have laid my hands on. It feels nice and beefy when you hold it. It has a different style of locking so that your settings don't change when tightening the locking collars. Def worth the money.

ubs234 · 10-03-2013, 01:58 AM

SO i pretty much just need rear camber arm and toe bolts to be good with swift springs?

DEpointfive0 · 10-03-2013, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ubs234

SO i pretty much just need rear camber arm and toe bolts to be good with swift springs?

At LEAST.

ubs234 · 10-03-2013, 03:49 AM

What do you have DEpointfive0?

DEpointfive0 · 10-03-2013, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ubs234

What do you have DEpointfive0?

SPC rear camber and toe bolts. Not lowered, just sagged suspension, lol
I just hate killing tires so quickly

ubs234 · 10-03-2013, 04:07 AM

So If I lower my car on swifts and have rear camber and toe bolts, my tires will still wear out faster? like I do daily driving, mostly on streets and about 30 miles a day. I usually want my tires to last 13-15k miles.

DEpointfive0 · 10-03-2013, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ubs234

So If I lower my car on swifts and have rear camber and toe bolts, my tires will still wear out faster? like I do daily driving, mostly on streets and about 30 miles a day. I usually want my tires to last 13-15k miles.

The front has adjustability, the rear doesn't, that's why you should get camber arms and toe bolts.
Personally, I don't think you need more if you're just on Swifts. Any half decent alignment shop should be able to get it within factory specs on all 4 wheels.

That is just my 2 cents. If you have the extra money for the front set, yeah, I guess it's better to be safe than sorry, and you'll have much more adjustability overall, but for a DD car, I think it'll be overkill

ubs234 · 10-03-2013, 04:35 AM

Im jus gonna get the rear! thanks for your help for the gajillionth time lol.

DEpointfive0 · 10-03-2013, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ubs234

Im jus gonna get the rear! thanks for your help for the gajillionth time lol.

Noooooo problem, just don't kill me if after you need the front set, lol

(I still HIGHLY doubt it)

ubs234 · 10-03-2013, 05:01 AM

I doubt it too. It is only DD. And it's just lowering springs. Not coils and it is not like slammed or flush or anything.

zguynate · 10-03-2013, 11:31 AM

My car is lowered on Swift springs. The front doesnt have factory camber adjustment, however the camber isnt terrible with the Swift springs. I have rear camber arms and no toe bolts. I was able to get my toe in spec, but my rear camber had to be a little more negative than spec to get the toe in spec. I dont particularly drive my car hard, but I have driven 20k miles on my car like this. My tires are near the end of their life, but I got some good life out of them.

Toe is the biggest killer of tires. Camber will cause them to wear slowly, but if your toe is off "scrubbing" occurs which is when a tire rotates slightly off center. When your car is going straight but your wheels are angled a little to the left or right (toe) thats when you will get some excessive tire wear.

SPC camber arms and toe bolts will be perfect for a DD.

ubs234 · 10-03-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

My car is lowered on Swift springs. The front doesnt have factory camber adjustment, however the camber isnt terrible with the Swift springs. I have rear camber arms and no toe bolts. I was able to get my toe in spec, but my rear camber had to be a little more negative than spec to get the toe in spec. I dont particularly drive my car hard, but I have driven 20k miles on my car like this. My tires are near the end of their life, but I got some good life out of them.

Toe is the biggest killer of tires. Camber will cause them to wear slowly, but if your toe is off "scrubbing" occurs which is when a tire rotates slightly off center. When your car is going straight but your wheels are angled a little to the left or right (toe) thats when you will get some excessive tire wear.

SPC camber arms and toe bolts will be perfect for a DD.

Yeah so just the rear camber plus toe bolts should be fine from what most people are telling me.

Naum16 · 10-04-2013, 01:34 PM

So is it 100% confirmed if you lower the Z on eibach springs you'll mead the chamber kit. It is possible just to have it aligned at the shop and be in spec

wheee! · 10-04-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Naum16

So is it 100% confirmed if you lower the Z on eibach springs you'll mead the chamber kit. It is possible just to have it aligned at the shop and be in spec

Go back, reread this thread and answer your own question....

Please people! This is the millionth time this issue has been addressed!!! Search the forum and you will find the info you are looking for.

Lower your car = add rear camber arms and toe bolts...... nuff said.

10-03-2013, 12:45 AM	#32 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 74	You WILL need rear camber arms and toe bolts to get back into factory spec. No way around that. I had SPC arms on my 350z. I drifted into a curb being a moron and did some good damage to the suspension. The SPC arm didn't break. It actually bent, which is expected when you hit a curb sideways. I wouldnt be afraid of the SPC arms breaking at all. I have SPL on my 370. It is by far the best quality suspension arm I have laid my hands on. It feels nice and beefy when you hold it. It has a different style of locking so that your settings don't change when tightening the locking collars. Def worth the money. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

10-03-2013, 11:31 AM	#42 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 74	My car is lowered on Swift springs. The front doesnt have factory camber adjustment, however the camber isnt terrible with the Swift springs. I have rear camber arms and no toe bolts. I was able to get my toe in spec, but my rear camber had to be a little more negative than spec to get the toe in spec. I dont particularly drive my car hard, but I have driven 20k miles on my car like this. My tires are near the end of their life, but I got some good life out of them. Toe is the biggest killer of tires. Camber will cause them to wear slowly, but if your toe is off "scrubbing" occurs which is when a tire rotates slightly off center. When your car is going straight but your wheels are angled a little to the left or right (toe) thats when you will get some excessive tire wear. SPC camber arms and toe bolts will be perfect for a DD. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

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10-03-2013, 01:58 AM	#33 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	SO i pretty much just need rear camber arm and toe bolts to be good with swift springs?

10-03-2013, 03:49 AM	#35 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	What do you have DEpointfive0?

10-03-2013, 04:07 AM	#37 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	So If I lower my car on swifts and have rear camber and toe bolts, my tires will still wear out faster? like I do daily driving, mostly on streets and about 30 miles a day. I usually want my tires to last 13-15k miles.

10-03-2013, 04:35 AM	#39 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	Im jus gonna get the rear! thanks for your help for the gajillionth time lol.

10-03-2013, 05:01 AM	#41 (permalink)
ubs234 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Covina Posts: 258 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 13	I doubt it too. It is only DD. And it's just lowering springs. Not coils and it is not like slammed or flush or anything.

10-04-2013, 01:34 PM	#44 (permalink)
Naum16 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: IN Posts: 152 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 12	So is it 100% confirmed if you lower the Z on eibach springs you'll mead the chamber kit. It is possible just to have it aligned at the shop and be in spec