Investment in the Z's Future

Rusty · 08-29-2013, 10:32 PM

I run the Racing Brake rotors front and rear. Z1 stainless lines, brake cooling ducts, Motul 600 brake fluid. For pads. I have EBC Yellowstuff. Not a bad pad for both DD and track. But I'm ready to go to Carbotechs. I've got 6 trackdays with no problems so far.

synolimit · 08-29-2013, 10:37 PM

I'd do Z1's since replacing the outer rotor should be cheaper than anything. I believe $200 something.

martin82 · 08-29-2013, 11:55 PM

The replacement rotor on the dba5000 outer ring is about 400$

synolimit · 08-30-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by martin82

The replacement rotor on the dba5000 outer ring is about 400$

Screw that

osbornsm · 08-30-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mts

1) Are you sure you warped them? More often than not, the warped feeling is uneven pad deposits and can be fixed by a very light turning.

Oh yah, i re-bed the pads... to the rotors and still no resolution. Took it to the dealer and they turned the rotors for me under warranty... they were warped like Pringles. lol

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2) As someone else already said, the specific track pad you use can make a huge difference in rotor life. Some of them flat eat rotors.

I use Carbotech XP8 pads all the way around. They are very forgiving on rotors, unlike Hawks.

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3) I've run on DBA's before and my experience is they don't last anywhere close to 5x as long as OEM.

Well they've GOT to last longer than 2 days!!

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Did you find a place that does a package deal on all 4 with pads and fluid?

Ahh, no... no package deals... but talk to Zspeed and ask for their DBA 5000 rotor deal... $535 is KILLER for this kind of setup.

...but then again, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

DEpointfive0 · 08-30-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by martin82

The replacement rotor on the dba5000 outer ring is about 400$

Joe said outer rings are about $200

osbornsm · 08-30-2013, 09:53 AM

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Joe said outer rings are about $200

WHEW... had me worried for a min there. EEK.

Sh0velMan · 08-30-2013, 09:55 AM

I've seen the replacement rings for ~$350 a pair.

That's really not bad at all, IMO.

synolimit · 08-30-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

Oh yah, i re-bed the pads... to the rotors and still no resolution. Took it to the dealer and they turned the rotors for me under warranty... they were warped like Pringles. lol

I use Carbotech XP8 pads all the way around. They are very forgiving on rotors, unlike Hawks.

Well they've GOT to last longer than 2 days!!

Ahh, no... no package deals... but talk to Zspeed and ask for their DBA 5000 rotor deal... $535 is KILLER for this kind of setup.

...but then again, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Not really when replacements are that expensive! Wouldn't you want cheaper replacements?

osbornsm · 08-30-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Not really when replacements are that expensive! Wouldn't you want cheaper replacements?

Well, yes... obviously. But Replacement OEM rotors are ~$250 and replacement rotor rings for the DBA set are about $400.

I'm going for longevity here... but of course that has yet to prove itself.

synolimit · 08-30-2013, 11:41 AM

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Well, yes... obviously. But Replacement OEM rotors are ~$250 and replacement rotor rings for the DBA set are about $400.

I'm going for longevity here... but of course that has yet to prove itself.

Z1 started their rotors in 09. By now they're proven. I believe they said $200 for replacement so I'd of gone cheaper since it seems to happen a lot to you. But it's done now so whatever.

PS, how the hell you going to replace them? Do you own that 3 star screw bit?

synolimit · 08-30-2013, 11:53 AM

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Am I missing something? I popped this cover and the frame is there. How am I supposed to get the brake hose in there?

osbornsm · 08-30-2013, 12:16 PM

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Am I missing something? I popped this cover and the frame is there. How am I supposed to get the brake hose in there?

Left side and RIGHT side are routed differently. Had to cut the FRP plastic to make room for the hoze.

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PS, how the hell you going to replace them? Do you own that 3 star screw bit?

Nahh, the nuts / bolts need to be torqued very specifically and w/ high temp loctite. Not to mention the 3 start bit.
- I would ONLY trust a shop to re-install new rotors, not me.

DEpointfive0 · 08-30-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Z1 started their rotors in 09. By now they're proven. I believe they said $200 for replacement so I'd of gone cheaper since it seems to happen a lot to you. But it's done now so whatever.

PS, how the hell you going to replace them? Do you own that 3 star screw bit?

I don't mean to knock Z1... But...
I think DBA is more proven because its not just ONE platform, or ONE car, and I doubt they have made or sold more than 100 sets.

Now, I know DBA some problems a few years ago, but hey, when you mass produce stuff, shít will invariably happen every once in a while. Especially when you don't know how products were BEATEN around a track.

Also, yes I have that star 3 tip screw bits! Harbor Freight FTW!!!

Voice59 · 08-30-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

EBC Akebono Sport Brake Upgrade Package Lines, Pads, Rotors +

Woww.. I have this exact same set up minus their stainless steel lines. I have Z1's. I have no issues with mine at all.

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Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	I've seen the replacement rings for ~$350 a pair. That's really not bad at all, IMO. osbornsm likes this. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

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martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	The replacement rotor on the dba5000 outer ring is about 400$