Akebono with Stock Brake Lines

omg35s · 08-01-2013, 01:47 PM

There are different answers to this question and I'd appreciate if someone knows exactly what I need to make the stock OEM lines work with my Akebono Set-Up.

From what I understand the Akebono BBK uses a different banjo bolt than the non-sports? So I need to find and order 4 of these banjo bolts?

What do I need in order to use my OEM lines with the akebono?

Thanks!

Chuck33079 · 08-01-2013, 01:49 PM

Just buy a set of SS brake lines that fit. Don't reinvent the wheel, and don't cut corners when dealing with your brakes.

omg35s · 08-01-2013, 02:00 PM

Not trying to cut corners. I do not want SS lines since they require more maintenance and the marginal benefits they provide will only be seen at the track. I'd rather buy the Sport Brake lines than go SS.

I've read people using their OEM lines so I just wanted to know exactly what I needed to make that work.

Chuck33079 · 08-01-2013, 02:02 PM

If you get the coated SS lines there's no additional maintenance, and you can feel the difference whether you're on the track or the street. I'd bet they cost less than the OEM lines as well.

omg35s · 08-01-2013, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If you get the coated SS lines there's no additional maintenance, and you can feel the difference whether you're on the track or the street. I'd bet they cost less than the OEM lines as well.

The only SS lines I'd consider buying is the BF Goodridge Phantom lines which are coated. There are too many "cheaply" made lines out there.

I've seen what happens to SS lines and I've heard way too many horror stories. Car will not be tracked enough to feel the difference, if any at all. I believe the pressure tests showed about 1% difference from OEM to SS.
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Upgraded Brakes From Base to Sport, Pics

I came across this thread and post but it doesn't say anything about any bolts? Does the hard-line bolt up straight to the caliper without any banjo bolts? There's only a mounting bracket for the rears and not fronts? Is there somewhere to mount this bracket if my car isn't factory equipped with the Akebono?...

If I purchase these OEM lines, what exactly bolts up to the caliper?

1. 46246-JK60B left front caliper hard line
1. 46245-JK60B right front caliper hard line
1. 46315-JL00A right rear caliper hard line
1. 46316-JL00A left rear caliper hard line

1. 55286-1MA0A right rear hard brake line caliper mounting bracket
1. 55287-1MA0A left rear hard brake line caliper mounting bracket
4. 01121-04761 bolt for mounting rear caliper bracket

There's no straight-forward thread that explains the process of upgrading to BBK. Just a lot of mixed information here and there. After the install I'll post up a thread explaining exactly what you need.

Let me know so I can finally install this BBK!

Thanks

DEpointfive0 · 08-01-2013, 02:18 PM

I can sell you OEM sport brake lines? Lol

omg35s · 08-01-2013, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I can sell you OEM sport brake lines? Lol

Thanks but I don't know how I feel about using "used" brake lines.. Something I don't want issues with. lol

DEpointfive0 · 08-01-2013, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omg35s

Thanks but I don't know how I feel about using "used" brake lines.. Something I don't want issues with. lol

But you're willing to modify yours to fit? Alllllright...

If you want the set I'll ship it for $20 OBO. Taken off a 2012 with 3000 miles

SS_Firehawk · 08-01-2013, 07:24 PM

Just tell em they r new and charge him $200 since he wants to pay Nissan prices for what everyone thinks is not worth it. Even the Nismo comes with upgraded brake lines now.

omg35s · 08-01-2013, 09:13 PM

You guys are taking this all wrong or maybe I'm not explaining myself correctly... I'm not trying to do the cheap way out at all.. I have bought Akebono calipers, stoptech drilled and slotted rotors, motul rfb600, EBC Yellow Brake Pads, and now I'm trying to figure out what options I have with the brake lines. I'm thinking about doing the install myself and I want to make sure I have everything before I do the install.

I'm familiar with SS lines. They require a lot of maintenance and periodic inspection. At a minimum you should check them 1-2 times per year for frays and leaks (especially at the connections). If you go to a track and ask people about SS lines they will tell you that most brake failures at the track are caused with cars with SS lines. Whether it's installation error or poor quality parts. You barely hear of brakes failing on OEM lines. Top of the line sport cars don't have SS lines.. Although internally they are probably slightly different... Also there is a big difference between “DOT compliant” and “DOT approved”. A lot of these small companies who make and sell brake lines are all inferior lines which "look" good. The only SS lines I'll drive on are the coated Goodridge Phantoms lines. Although I hear that Goodridge non-coated and Stoptech lines are good too.

I will be tracking my car maybe a few times a year and the marginal 1%-2% benefits of SS lines aren't worth it for me. Google it and read about if SS lines are worth putting on daily drivers...

I just want a clean install and I assumed the best way was not to touch the lines except to where it meets the calipers. Causing a smaller chance of possible leaks. I know the "banjo" bolts are different but not sure exactly what I need in regards of lines, bolts, washers, etc.. I think I need to purchase the lines ($40) posted in the thread I posted but I'm not 100%...
By no means am I trying to seek the "cheap/unsafe" way out... My car is FBO with no "cheap" parts.. Sorry if I confused any of you.. lol

SS_Firehawk · 08-01-2013, 09:34 PM

What about Teflon coated lines? Z1 coats their lines. They have a premium version too that I believe maintains the stock configuration.

synolimit · 08-01-2013, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

What about Teflon coated lines? Z1 coats their lines. They have a premium version too that I believe maintains the stock configuration.

It's what I have. Never seen a SS line that didn't have a thick coating on them so frays aren't possible.

OP, 500 miles on my OEM

Chuck33079 · 08-01-2013, 11:08 PM

I had an uncoated set on another vehicle. They'll saw right through anything they rub against, and theyll do it fast. I've never seen any fray though.

DEpointfive0 · 08-01-2013, 11:23 PM

OP, $16 shipped priority mail

synolimit · 08-02-2013, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I had an uncoated set on another vehicle. They'll saw right through anything they rub against, and theyll do it fast. I've never seen any fray though.

By who? Guess I just buy quality

08-01-2013, 01:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
omg35s Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New York Posts: 63 Drives: XXX Rep Power: 15	Akebono with Stock Brake Lines There are different answers to this question and I'd appreciate if someone knows exactly what I need to make the stock OEM lines work with my Akebono Set-Up. From what I understand the Akebono BBK uses a different banjo bolt than the non-sports? So I need to find and order 4 of these banjo bolts? What do I need in order to use my OEM lines with the akebono? Thanks!

08-01-2013, 01:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Just buy a set of SS brake lines that fit. Don't reinvent the wheel, and don't cut corners when dealing with your brakes. Nut_N_Much, Brendan and wideglideleon like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-01-2013, 02:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	If you get the coated SS lines there's no additional maintenance, and you can feel the difference whether you're on the track or the street. I'd bet they cost less than the OEM lines as well. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-01-2013, 02:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
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08-01-2013, 07:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Just tell em they r new and charge him $200 since he wants to pay Nissan prices for what everyone thinks is not worth it. Even the Nismo comes with upgraded brake lines now. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

08-01-2013, 02:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
omg35s Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New York Posts: 63 Drives: XXX Rep Power: 15	Not trying to cut corners. I do not want SS lines since they require more maintenance and the marginal benefits they provide will only be seen at the track. I'd rather buy the Sport Brake lines than go SS. I've read people using their OEM lines so I just wanted to know exactly what I needed to make that work.

08-01-2013, 09:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
omg35s Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New York Posts: 63 Drives: XXX Rep Power: 15	You guys are taking this all wrong or maybe I'm not explaining myself correctly... I'm not trying to do the cheap way out at all.. I have bought Akebono calipers, stoptech drilled and slotted rotors, motul rfb600, EBC Yellow Brake Pads, and now I'm trying to figure out what options I have with the brake lines. I'm thinking about doing the install myself and I want to make sure I have everything before I do the install. I'm familiar with SS lines. They require a lot of maintenance and periodic inspection. At a minimum you should check them 1-2 times per year for frays and leaks (especially at the connections). If you go to a track and ask people about SS lines they will tell you that most brake failures at the track are caused with cars with SS lines. Whether it's installation error or poor quality parts. You barely hear of brakes failing on OEM lines. Top of the line sport cars don't have SS lines.. Although internally they are probably slightly different... Also there is a big difference between “DOT compliant” and “DOT approved”. A lot of these small companies who make and sell brake lines are all inferior lines which "look" good. The only SS lines I'll drive on are the coated Goodridge Phantoms lines. Although I hear that Goodridge non-coated and Stoptech lines are good too. I will be tracking my car maybe a few times a year and the marginal 1%-2% benefits of SS lines aren't worth it for me. Google it and read about if SS lines are worth putting on daily drivers... I just want a clean install and I assumed the best way was not to touch the lines except to where it meets the calipers. Causing a smaller chance of possible leaks. I know the "banjo" bolts are different but not sure exactly what I need in regards of lines, bolts, washers, etc.. I think I need to purchase the lines ($40) posted in the thread I posted but I'm not 100%... By no means am I trying to seek the "cheap/unsafe" way out... My car is FBO with no "cheap" parts.. Sorry if I confused any of you.. lol

08-01-2013, 09:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	What about Teflon coated lines? Z1 coats their lines. They have a premium version too that I believe maintains the stock configuration. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

08-01-2013, 11:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I had an uncoated set on another vehicle. They'll saw right through anything they rub against, and theyll do it fast. I've never seen any fray though. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-01-2013, 11:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	OP, $16 shipped priority mail __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

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