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NS370Z 05-18-2013 05:10 PM

Brake bleed clear tubing, inside diameter???
 
Anyone know for certain what inside diameter clear tubing I'd need to fit snugly to do a brake bleed task.:bowrofl:

Baer383 05-18-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2321707)
Anyone know for certain what inside diameter clear tubing I'd need to fit snugly to do a brake bleed task.:bowrofl:

What kind of task are you doing?

NS370Z 05-18-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2321980)
What kind of task are you doing?

Bleeding the brake system. I'd like to know the ID for the clear tubing that goes over the caliper bleed nipple so when I'm out I can purchase the correct size.

Baer383 05-18-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2321990)
Bleeding the brake system. I'd like to know the ID for the clear tubing that goes over the caliper bleed nipple so when I'm out I can purchase the correct size.

You don't need any hose just put a bucket under each wheel open all 8 bleeders keep the M/C full after you run thru about a quart of fluid tighten all 8 bleeder screws top off M/C then fill a windex bottle of water and hose off the calipers to dulit the brake fluid your done.

roy'sz 05-18-2013 11:35 PM

either 1/4 or 3/8. the clutch line is a little bit larger than 3/8

Fishey 05-19-2013 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2321995)
You don't need any hose just put a bucket under each wheel open all 8 bleeders keep the M/C full after you run thru about a quart of fluid tighten all 8 bleeder screws top off M/C then fill a windex bottle of water and hose off the calipers to dulit the brake fluid your done.

:gtfo2: Please do yourself a favor and keep bad advise off the forum.

Baer383 05-19-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishey (Post 2322234)
:gtfo2: Please do yourself a favor and keep bad advise off the forum.

You have no idea what you are talking about troll!!!!:shakes head:

It's bad that you made that comment b/c it shows that you don't know anything about cars!

Fishey 05-19-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2322235)
You have no idea what you are talking about troll!!!!:shakes head:

It's bad that you made that comment b/c it shows that you don't know anything about cars!

Yes, I don't know anything about cars because I don't advise gravity bleeding.

First, gravity bleeding uses gravity to flow fluid meaning that there is very little pressure exerted on the line with very little flow. Small bubbles can still stay in the line.

Second, with such little flow/pressure if you have any air in your ABS system it is almost guaranteed not to work.

Third, you don't actuate the master cylinder and you can still have air stuck in it. I have seen this a number of times even with motive pressure bleeders failing to bleed out the brake system properly especially on older Porsche. (964/993) The motive method is like 99% better then gravity bleeding regardless.

Fourth, Running expensive fluid? Cause gravity bleeding tends to be a big waste. I guess unless I am running around watching each bleeder and then closing them but that seems like more work then bleeding properly. I mean most cars hold about 500ml of fluid so wasting half a bottle of SRF does not sound appealing.

Fifth, Gravity bleeding takes forever simply because of the lack of pressure.

So yea.... :ughdance:

Baer383 05-19-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishey (Post 2322262)
Yes, I don't know anything about cars because I don't advise gravity bleeding.

First, gravity bleeding uses gravity to flow fluid meaning that there is very little pressure exerted on the line with very little flow. Small bubbles can still stay in the line.

Second, with such little flow/pressure if you have any air in your ABS system it is almost guaranteed not to work.

Third, you don't actuate the master cylinder and you can still have air stuck in it. I have seen this a number of times even with motive pressure bleeders failing to bleed out the brake system properly especially on older Porsche. (964/993) The motive method is like 99% better then gravity bleeding regardless.

Fourth, Running expensive fluid? Cause gravity bleeding tends to be a big waste. I guess unless I am running around watching each bleeder and then closing them but that seems like more work then bleeding properly. I mean most cars hold about 500ml of fluid so wasting half a bottle of SRF does not sound appealing.

Fifth, Gravity bleeding takes forever simply because of the lack of pressure.

So yea.... :ughdance:


Like I said your comment on this forum doesn't hold water.

Fishey 05-19-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2322283)
Like I said your comment on this forum doesn't hold water ,plus I have been working on cars probably longer than you have been alive.:nutswinger:

Gravity bleeding is bad advise for reasons I posted and I don't see any counter argument to adjust my point of view on the subject. Furthermore, I don't see how relevant your age is to the conversation but I will let you know I am 28. However, I am more curious about your experience working on cars like are you a professional tech?

SouthArk370Z 05-19-2013 09:07 AM

Well, I figured that info would be in the FSM but all it calls for is "vinyl tubing" (I think they meant PVC). As cheap as the stuff is (you can find it in most hardware, hobby, pet (fish) stores for a few bucks for a 5-10 ft roll), just buy 2-3 different IDs and see which works best. 1/4" or 3/8" ID will probably do the trick but I've never bled the brakes on a 370Z.

Baer383 05-19-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2322366)
Well, I figured that info would be in the FSM but all it calls for is "vinyl tubing" (I think they meant PVC). As cheap as the stuff is (you can find it in most hardware, hobby, pet (fish) stores for a few bucks for a 5-10 ft roll), just buy 2-3 different IDs and see which works best. 1/4" or 3/8" ID will probably do the trick but I've never bled the brakes on a 370Z.

By the time he runs around to find that hose I can flush the whole brake system in 20 minutes by myself.:tiphat:

Jsolo 05-19-2013 09:19 AM

With the method mentioned in post #4, i'd be concerned about getting brake fluid on painted surfaces and/or even onto the pads.

As for method, I highly recommend the motive device. Assuming you're just doing this for preventive maintenance, chances of getting air in the master is unlikely. Maybe the trick is to pump the pedal several times then use the motive device?

Baer383 05-19-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 2322375)
With the method mentioned in post #4, i'd be concerned about getting brake fluid on painted surfaces and/or even onto the pads.

As for method, I highly recommend the motive device. Assuming you're just doing this for preventive maintenance, chances of getting air in the master is unlikely. Maybe the trick is to pump the pedal several times then use the motive device?

As far as the fluid on the pads it doesn't get on them and the calipers are power coated not paint so there are obviously no issues with it.

SouthArk370Z 05-19-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2322370)
By the time he runs around to find that hose I can flush the whole brake system in 20 minutes by myself.:tiphat:

I don't disagree with you. I follow your basic procedure - put a bucket under it and then wash any spills with soap and water. But it can get pretty messy and, if I ever bleed the brakes on my 370, I'll probably use some tubing. The tubing is not necessary but it sure makes cleanup a lot easier. It also helps keep air out of the line if you are pumping the brake pedal to build up pressure.


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