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Fishey 05-19-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2322469)
This explains alot!!

You may want to spend less time on the net and more time being Factory trained like myself and then come back with a better response.

First, You have had no response to my earlier post and saying you are "Factory Trained" is a bit laughable. No manufacture recommends or endorses the method you have outlined feel free to seek Nissan's factory manuals for reference.

Second, Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) and the National Automotive Technicians Education Foundation (NATEF) both specifically recommend the factory method and gravity bleeding is not the factory method and its not a method recognized or taught by ASE or NATEF.


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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2322486)
You are one of those trolls that's reads stuff and jump from thread to thread voicing your knowledge.

Your advise is not good advise gravity bleeding is a poor way to bleed your brake system. Gravity bleeding can work but its not the best way or a recommended way to bleed brakes. It does not have the flow or pressure to ensure consistent and reliable results.

Your Friend
Ron

Factory Trained, ASE Master Technician #ASE-5378-2655, Past Professional Car Chief (Doran Racing), Current Shop Owner/Operator www.facebook.com/metricgarage.net

dastaco 05-20-2013 09:35 AM

Just wondering because I haven't seen it addressed..

Is there any benefit to gravity bleeding other than saving time?

Baer383 05-20-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishey (Post 2323200)
First, You have had no response to my earlier post and saying you are "Factory Trained" is a bit laughable. No manufacture recommends or endorses the method you have outlined feel free to seek Nissan's factory manuals for reference.

Second, Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) and the National Automotive Technicians Education Foundation (NATEF) both specifically recommend the factory method and gravity bleeding is not the factory method and its not a method recognized or taught by ASE or NATEF.




Your advise is not good advise gravity bleeding is a poor way to bleed your brake system. Gravity bleeding can work but its not the best way or a recommended way to bleed brakes. It does not have the flow or pressure to ensure consistent and reliable results.

Your Friend
Ron

Factory Trained, ASE Master Technician #ASE-5378-2655, Past Professional Car Chief (Doran Racing), Current Shop Owner/Operator www.facebook.com/metricgarage.net


I have done mine this way and some of guys that track there cars are also doing which takes about 20 minutes ,and if you want to discuss ASE cert. and I-car cert.(for Autobody repair) pm me you're fax number and Ill see about getting them down off the wall and fax you a copy.

And the only advantage to a gravity bleed is no chance of introducing air in the system.

fuct 05-20-2013 11:17 AM

i used the motive power bleeder for mine. very very very minimal mess, and easy as pie.

djtodd 05-20-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2323908)
i used the motive power bleeder for mine. very very very minimal mess, and easy as pie.

^ qft

fuct 05-20-2013 02:38 PM

qft = queefed
:confused:

SouthArk370Z 05-20-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2324268)
qft = queefed
:confused:

Here's what I found. Seems to fit.

thekinn 05-21-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2321707)
Anyone know for certain what inside diameter clear tubing I'd need to fit snugly to do a brake bleed task.:bowrofl:

heh.. it is pretty cheap stuff to buy. I just picked some up - never paid attention to the actual inner diameter - just got what looks small enough for a snug fit on the bleeder. It happens to be .170 in. Something around that size should be good.

I'd love to see a 20min video of the 'other' method... start to finish. and a nice close-up of your caliper paint - Baer.

Baer383 05-21-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thekinn (Post 2326539)

I'd love to see a 20min video of the 'other' method... start to finish. and a nice close-up of your caliper paint - Baer.

I'm sure you would like to watch 20 min of brake fluid running out of calipers,next time your in Georgia you can see mine and SPOHN he also does it this way.

Also once you guys learn the calipers are powercoated then you won't make statement like this.:tiphat:

kenchan 05-21-2013 07:01 PM

i just like my work to be clean. nothing against brake fluid getting on calipers but then, i dont want that dripping onto my wheels later if i miss a spot. :eekdance:

Baer383 05-21-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2326817)
i just like my work to be clean. nothing against brake fluid getting on calipers but then, i dont want that dripping onto my wheels later if i miss a spot. :eekdance:

Cleanliness is next to Godliness don't be an atheist.:roflpuke2:

chops 05-23-2013 12:57 AM

wow...dont do a gravity bleed please. brake fluid is nasty stuff. you dont want to even leave it on your skin for too long.

anyway, ive used a 3/8" vinyl tubing (2bucks from the hardware store) and an empty bottle of water with a hole cut in the cap in the past with great results

SPOHN 05-23-2013 03:33 PM

I gravity bleed all the time. I assure you my brake pedal feel is firmer than any other method that I've tried. PERIOD. All this guys that use these pressure methods seem to have to keep redoing them frequently at the track. Me, never.

I could care less what A factory trained ASE guy is taught. These are the same guys that work at dealerships and SUCK. Haven't any of you read the 1 million horror stories. There's a reason. Just because its not taught or in the manual doesn't mean this method can't be done. There's more than one way to skin a cat. You do your way. Ill do mine. Gravity bleed is proven. I'm just glad your ASE skills are not charging us bookwork for you advice. It would of been five hours for your 10 sec's of service.

kenchan 05-23-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2330151)
I could care less what A factory trained ASE guy is taught. These are the same guys that work at dealerships and SUCK.

:icon18:

JARblue 05-23-2013 04:04 PM

Does ASE instruct to flush the customer's brake fluid without permission? Cause that's what happened to me the last time I stopped by the dealer to ask a question :ugh2:


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