You guys are funny:roflpuke2:

When bleeding the brakes and bleeder screws are tight hose them down with water(which dilutes the brake fluid)so I don't know how much cleaner than that.plus if you guys completely understood the brake system you would know that there is no reason for a power bleed (foot/machine)unless you are at dealer and they are bleeding the ABS unit in which case the solenoids need to be in the locked open position to remove any air.

I really don't see what the big deal is. Unless using the tubing can somehow mess things up, what difference does it make? Is it necessary? No. Is it neater? Yes.

yea lets spray coagulated oil across the rotors and pads...mmmm hmmm great idea! motive brake bleeder will take you about 10 min to do the job the right way. :shakes head:

They understand the concept of remove fluid,replace with new and don't get any air in it,the hose is absolutely unnecessary to use when you have to bleed 8 bleeder screws(2 per caliper for those who didn't know that) the water cleans the caliper and flushes away and dilutes it.

What are you guys going to do when you are done bleeding your brakes and you pull off the hose?Do you think that you won't spill a few drops on the caliper? and you will reach for a rag and wipe it off which still leaves it on the caliper so the only easy way to do it is with water hence no need for the hose you are just making more work for yourselves.

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All of my experience comes from reading chiltons manual. So either the are full of it or you are! Especially if almost everyone on this site is saying that you are not correct with your methods then I would re consider your thoughts.

I just put my mouth on the bleeder and siphon out the fluid that way. Although, sometimes I just pour the fresh brake fluid directly in my mouth :ugh2:

This explains alot!!

You may want to spend less time on the net and more time being Factory trained like myself and then come back with a better response.

Nah I don't have those cards do, I suspect you hand more of those out at the shop or driveway that you work at. Man I hope im not senile when I get your age..fm!

You are one of those trolls that's reads stuff and jump from thread to thread voicing your knowledge.

Some prefer to clean up a mess by not making it in the first place. Some prefer to do the job by-the-book. ;)

I'm no braking system expert - I'll freely admit that my knowledge of ABS/TC/&c is superficial at best and my understanding is even less. And the last brakes I bled were on a '98 Pontiac. But... I have worked with hydraulic systems, both mechanically and control-wise, from the size of a few D cells to 6' radial motors and I've been servicing brakes since the mid-'70s (I may not be doing it right but I always manage to stop). Hydraulics is hydraulics.

If you have been paying attention over the years I get pissy about safety items on cars and people don't have 110% understanding on what they are doing and if you guys have to use a book all the time to work on your cars well then I would leave the safety items to an expert ,you don't hear me say much about regular stuff like taking your door panel or radio out.

Holly crap, settle down guys.:confused: Never in my wildest dreams would I envision a simple question turning to this. I live in a somewhat rural area with not a lot of selection so I just thought I'd ask before I went looking. I was thinking of getting the Phoenix Systems Bleeding Brakes, Brake Bleeding Tools, Brake Fluid Testing You push the old fluid and air up into the M/C. As soon as they email me back and confirm they can ship to Canada via USPS I might just go that route. Thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate it but try to keep the personal insults in check.

Welcome to The370Z. :tiphat:

I have a lot of respect for Baer383. From what I can tell from his previous posts he is very knowledgeable about cars and it would be unwise to ignore his advice. But I think he is going a bit overboard in this case. I believe that he's a good guy and that he is only trying to watch out for other DIYers, but (much like myself :p ) he is rather out-spoken and doesn't mind ruffling some feathers. I like that. ;)