Can you put nismo sways and springs on 370z 40th?
 

Will they fit? Will my handling be slightly better?

Yes, all parts are interchangeable.
Honestly, Nismo springs are worth their weight in... Almost nothing actually...
The struts are OK, but your suspension will be much, MUCH harder... And cornering will be better...

Now, sway bar... It's not definite that the stock Nismo sway is any stiffer... The ones Z1 sells ARE stiffer... Not by much, good for a DD, it's what I have

Are the Nismo springs lower? And are they better than the touring springs?

Now you reached search feature territory.
The supposed drop is .4" some say none.

Better, what does better mean? Ride quality will go to backbreaking REAL quick... And yeah, I guess a stiff as shít suspension is "better" for cornering, but don't waste your money or time and buy a set of real springs... (Please do not ask WHICH springs, we have 3000 threads for that topic as well)

The Nismo sway bars will make a change in handling, I have a completely stock Z with sport package, the front always felt like it was pushing in a hard fast turn.
I caught the sale at Z-1 they had at the beginning of the year for the Nismo bars which
Z-1 claimed they were Nismo Japan part not off the factory build. After the change there was a noticeable different. They are good street upgrade that is factory tuned to the car, but lack the adjustably if you what to seriously track the car.

Nismo springs
 

The NISMO O.E. springs & shocks are different from NISMO S Tune .Several people have reported issues off no drop or slight increase in ride height. With the O.E. setup.Please see attachments for a comparison off stock vs. NISMO S Tune springs and swaybars. The info for stock spring rate is from Eibach where it is compared to their Pro Kit.

Attachment 68636 PRO-KIT—NISSAN 2009 DATA: TECHNICAL INFORMATION FRONT: OE rate: Linear 74 N/mm (422 lbs/in) PK rate: Progressive 42-84 N/mm (239-479 lbs/in) Tubing: None Bump-stop: OE Damper: OE OE wheel center to fender: 381mm (15.0in) PK wheel center to fender: 360mm (14.1in) Front Alignment: OE Camber = -0.55 +/-0.75 deg OE Caster = 8.15 +/-0.75 deg OE Toe = 0.04 +/-0.04 deg PK Camber = -1.1 deg PK Caster = 5.7 deg PK Toe = 0.04 deg Approximate installation time: 1.5 hr. PRO-KIT can be aligned to all OE alignment specification except caster. Recommend Pro-Alignment kit 5.72135K. REAR: OE rate: Linear 79 N/mm (450 lbs/in) PK rate: Progressive 38-93 N/mm (217-530 lbs/in) Tubing: None Bump-stop: OE Damper: OE OE wheel center to fender: 377mm (14.8in) PK wheel center to fender: 357mm (14.0in) Rear Alignment: OE Camber = -1.6 +/-0.5 deg OE Toe = 0.085 +/- 0.035 deg PK Camber = -2.5 deg PK Toe = 0.11 deg Approximate installation time: 1.0 hr. PRO-KIT require Pro-Alignment kit 5.72260K or 5.72265K.

Sway bar comparison
Front: 1.1" (27 mm) hollow steel, 5.3 mm wall thickness
OE: 1.0" (26.5 mm), 3.5 mm wall thickness
Rear: 1.0" (25.4 mm) hollow steel, 3.5 mm wall thickness
OE: 0.9" (24.2 mm), 3.0 mm wall thickness
Hope the attachment up loads . If it doesn't the S Tune spring rates are 450 front ,508 rear.

So you are saying (or I guess Eibach is saying) that the Nismo S Tune spring/damper/roll bars are stiffer than the oem Nismo suspension bits? Is there documentation somewhere on what the oem Nismo comes with?

Also sourced from Eibach this is a comparison of O. E. Nismo Vs. their Pro Kit for Nismo edition. As can be seen from all the various info apparently the S-Tune springs are very slightly softer than O. E. Nismo. I've never seen any damper rates given anywhere O.E. base or O,E. Nismo.

springs
 

Forgot to paste this.

FRONT:
OE rate: 86 N/mm (490 lbs/in)
PK rate: 35-96-116 N/mm (200-547-661 lbs/in)
Tubing: Yes
Bump-stop: OE
Damper: OE
OE wheel center to fender: 382 mm (15.0 in)
PK wheel center to fender: 357 mm (14.0 in)

REAR:
OE rate: 91 N/mm (519 lbs/in)
PK rate: 40-93-108 N/mm (228-530-616 lbs/in)
Tubing: None
Bump-stop: OE
Damper: OE
OE wheel center to fender: 367 mm (14.5 in)
PK wheel center to fender: 355 mm (14.0 in)

Unless you're finding this Nismo stuff at a great price, the aftermarket alternatives usually offer more of an upgrade for less money.

thought i posted this earlier, but the nismo springs raise the front more than the base, doesn't it?

ask tjblazer. he did a full conversion from base to nismo. and i think he threw out the nismo springs and used swift springs instead.

Yep. I installed Nismo full suspention off a Nismo, with struts and it raised my front .5"! 28" front and 28" rear. Removed them and installed Swift Spec R on my original struts. 1000% better. My kidneys are much happier now! :tiphat: :happydance: :driving:

i would think if you just installed the nismo springs/shocks ext they would sit a little higher at first but when broke in they will sit 0.4 lower??

Nope, it didn't. Infact I went back and double checked that everything was installed correctly and that the struts and springs were settled and aligned correctly. Was 28" from the ground to arches. Where it was about 27.5" before.

I then did some research and looked at all the Nismo 370Z's. I noticed that they all seemed to be a little higher in the front than base Z's. They almost had a boat look to them, where the front looked raised a little compared to regular Z's! Hmmmm. Seems to me that is how the Nismo 370Z is supposed to be? For handling/track use maybe? I don't know. But all I know is it did NOT lower .4" !!

edit - but maybe my car was an odd one where it was about 27.5" inches stock. Go measure your stock Z and see what the height is. From the ground to the top arch on each side...

The NISMO S-tuned springs/shocks drop the car 0.5" I know, as that is the drop I got when I replaced my touring springs/shocks. Can't talk the sways as I have Hotchkis front and rear. Ride is a little stiffer, but not kidney shattering (unless the road is messed up, then I change lanes). It handles great on the track, and street.

This makes me feel much better as I want to change from sports/touring suspension to the s-tune full oem setup. It will complete my s-tune package.

Sounds like just what I'm looking for and I'll hope for the .5 drop all around.

Hi !

I got my 370Z three weeks ago, and like most of the people, I feel the suspensions a little bit to soft.

I would like to change them without lowering my car (or by 10mm maximum)

The first possibility is to buy a Nismo combo (struts+springs).

Are you aware of other stiffer springs for 370Z that do not lower the car and I could use without changing the struts ?

Thanks :tiphat:

i thought the nismo springs raise the front on the base.

for me, all the Z needed was to photoshop a slightly stiffer front swaybar.
note that my other cars are modded and have owned many modded cars in the past.
the Z does not require that many mods for street use.

That is for road use only (including moutain roads), not for track.

So you recommend to change only the front swaybar (and not the rear swaybar) instead of changing the springs ? :confused:

yep, do the front swaybar only. it seems rear would help more, but in reality the car sways in the front a bit more than desired. the rear is fine.

you can change the springs to swifts if you want, but ive not had the need. if you are going to change springs, do the springs first cause then the car will tell you wat it needs next.

Thanks for the prompt answer ;)

OK, probably I will look for changing only the front swayfront. Which one do you recommend :confused:

About springs, the issue is that currently I don't know which springs to buy (I would like them stiffer, but don't want to lower my car...)

im using the kangaroo bar aka whiteline in the soft setting which is about 30%+ stiffer than stock. i also have a stillen bar set in my parts bin new in box as back up.

if my whitelines ever fail (the bushing is kinda crappy) im going to use just the front stillen bar on stock bushings in the middle setting. this too gives the front about 30%+ stiffer than stock.

if you want just stiffer on the shocks and ride, i recommend you keep your stock springs and get koni yellows. by dialing in the rebound you might be able to achieve wat you want without adding the front bar.

Whitelines swaybars is like night and day difference with the OEM sway
You can use the nismo springs and shocks if you want it to be stiffer.

I personally use cialis though! :D

Ok back to topic swift springs as far I'm concerned are softer than the OEM springs. So ride is much better for me.

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Fock, you planning on tracking your Z?

btw guys...i posted a huge thread about nismo sways. the sways that come on the nismo 370z are the exact same ones as the nismo s-tune sways, except for the paint job. they weighed the same and had the same diameters when i purchased a set from Z1.

http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/64...smo-sways.html

Hi,
No track, back roads only and mountain roads :roflpuke2:

What is the color of the Nismo OEM swaybar ? I would like to avoid something too flashy in case of someone have a look to the bottom of the car...

that's good info chops! :tup:

Nismo sways are just black. There's zero need to worry about something "too flashy" when it comes to sways.

do you get a S-TUNE sticker when you buy the S-TUNE swaybar set?

I'm asking about the color, because in France in case of accident the expert can detect that some parts are not OEM (thus it could change the car behavior and make it unsafe) and then your assurance can refuse to pay you back...

In that case do a wtb ad and run black nismo! :tup:

I will contact my Nissan dealer to ask for a Nismo swaybar price :excited:
Thanks

fock- check also if you need new bushings to go with the nismo bar(s).

:bowrofl:

wait, why you laughing? :confused: do i have something on my face? :confused:

It was just to say thanks ;)

oh i c... :ugh: :icon17:

just letting you know that the diameter of the bar appears to be different so you might need new bushings to go with the nismo bars. i think they use the same clamps though.

check courtesyparts.com and compare between base and nismo to be sure. :D

I had a quick look to the Nismo swaybar and I have found this information on the forum :
Nismo: Front & Rear Sway-Bar Kit - Part Number: E4600-1EA00US

How to know if this kit includes bushings :confused: (in fact, I don't know if standard/Nismo bushings are the same)