Sport Pkg brakes up to track use?

john0990 · 07-20-2009, 05:20 PM

I'm considering a 370z with Sport Pkg as my weekend track car. I am an experienced track driver running in advanced run groups and will likely upgrade the suspension, and will definitely add an oil cooler and run dedicated track wheels/tires and pads.

My question is, are the Sport Pkg brakes up to the task? Are there any ducting kits available that properly route air to the inside of the wheel hub? In my experience ducting kits are the best way to keep the brakes cool...

Also, how easy is it to change pads? Do you have to remove the entire caliper or do you just pop a pin out and pry the pads out while the caliper is still bolted on?

Thanks in advance
John

RCZ · 07-20-2009, 06:28 PM

calipers yes, pads/fluid hell no.

Pretty easy to change pads on this car. Pin.

Rotors are still a toss up. We think the problems people have been experiencing on the track is more from pad overheating than rotors, however the rotors might be terrible too.

molamann · 07-20-2009, 11:57 PM

I guess non-sports brakes should stay the hell away?

Viera · 07-21-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann

I guess non-sports brakes should stay the hell away?

You could not be any more correct, sir.

37Z · 07-21-2009, 08:30 PM

I suggest changing out the stock brake lines with SS ones.

shabarivas · 07-21-2009, 08:43 PM

So what pads do you track junkies run - what fluid? sorry if this has been answered before - just link me

kannibul · 07-23-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

So what pads do you track junkies run - what fluid? sorry if this has been answered before - just link me

Flush and load brake system w/ DOT4 or maybe DOT5 / DOT 5.1 (DOT4 being the better choice, IMO)

Stainless brake lines would help too.

Ken in AZ · 07-23-2009, 06:49 PM

Dot 4 - I concur

Dot 5 doesn't like ABS

RCZ · 07-25-2009, 02:52 PM

Just get some RBF600 fluid... as far as pads go, do you want dedicated track pads or something you can try and use in both?

boosted180 · 08-04-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Just get some RBF600 fluid... as far as pads go, do you want dedicated track pads or something you can try and use in both?

RCZ, what do you think about the hawk blues? i like them b/c they're good enough for track use in other cars i've driven but you dont *have* to take them off to drive home. (i usually take them off the next day after getting home). the price is also relatively cheap.

travisjb · 08-04-2009, 01:24 AM

after several issues with the brakes overheating, i just decided to go with a full AP Racing BBK... I think I'm the first one with this setup... I'm LATE posting a review, but will do so after my event this coming weekend... I ran them at Miller Motorsports a few weeks ago and had zero of the problems i had before...

you *may* get rid of the heating issue with stock brakes by swapping rotors for slotted and creating some ducting to get air flow up, but **** when it comes to brakes why take the chance... you need them to work every time!

shabarivas · 08-04-2009, 02:33 AM

Agreed ^ please post up pics

and pm me a price if you could

travisjb · 08-04-2009, 10:29 AM

hey shaba, if you're asking me for a price, no can do... just ping josh at stillen

there is a pic on my journal somewhere... will start a new thread next weekend

RCZ · 08-06-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boosted180

RCZ, what do you think about the hawk blues? i like them b/c they're good enough for track use in other cars i've driven but you dont *have* to take them off to drive home. (i usually take them off the next day after getting home). the price is also relatively cheap.

I dont have experience with Hawk Blues, only with HP+ and the street variants. Maybe you're referring to the HP+?

Island_370 · 08-07-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken in AZ

Dot 4 - I concur

Dot 5 doesn't like ABS

DOT 5 should NEVER be put in a street car. 5.1 is just a higher grade of DOT 4.

DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 are the same "technology"..Glycol based.

DOT 5 is silicone based.

07-20-2009, 05:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
john0990 Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dallas, tX Posts: 6 Drives: 03 BMW M3 Rep Power: 16	Sport Pkg brakes up to track use? I'm considering a 370z with Sport Pkg as my weekend track car. I am an experienced track driver running in advanced run groups and will likely upgrade the suspension, and will definitely add an oil cooler and run dedicated track wheels/tires and pads. My question is, are the Sport Pkg brakes up to the task? Are there any ducting kits available that properly route air to the inside of the wheel hub? In my experience ducting kits are the best way to keep the brakes cool... Also, how easy is it to change pads? Do you have to remove the entire caliper or do you just pop a pin out and pry the pads out while the caliper is still bolted on? Thanks in advance John

07-21-2009, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
37Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 476 Drives: 370Z MB 6M -sold Rep Power: 263	Brake Lines I suggest changing out the stock brake lines with SS ones.

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	after several issues with the brakes overheating, i just decided to go with a full AP Racing BBK... I think I'm the first one with this setup... I'm LATE posting a review, but will do so after my event this coming weekend... I ran them at Miller Motorsports a few weeks ago and had zero of the problems i had before... you may get rid of the heating issue with stock brakes by swapping rotors for slotted and creating some ducting to get air flow up, but **** when it comes to brakes why take the chance... you need them to work every time! __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	hey shaba, if you're asking me for a price, no can do... just ping josh at stillen there is a pic on my journal somewhere... will start a new thread next weekend __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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07-20-2009, 06:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	calipers yes, pads/fluid hell no. Pretty easy to change pads on this car. Pin. Rotors are still a toss up. We think the problems people have been experiencing on the track is more from pad overheating than rotors, however the rotors might be terrible too.

07-20-2009, 11:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
molamann A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,666 Drives: 370Z with NAVVVVV Rep Power: 284	I guess non-sports brakes should stay the hell away?

07-21-2009, 08:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	So what pads do you track junkies run - what fluid? sorry if this has been answered before - just link me

07-23-2009, 06:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ken in AZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maricopa AZ Posts: 35 Drives: M45 2006 Rep Power: 263	Dot 4 - I concur Dot 5 doesn't like ABS

07-25-2009, 02:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Just get some RBF600 fluid... as far as pads go, do you want dedicated track pads or something you can try and use in both?

08-04-2009, 02:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Agreed ^ please post up pics and pm me a price if you could