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Just got them installed at a local shop and the mechanic said he had to use some zip ties on the front lines because they are a bit long so

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just got them installed at a local shop and the mechanic said he had to use some zip ties on the front lines because they are a bit long so they wouldn't rub on anything. Is this normal? I searched for a DIY on the lines with no luck. Anyone come across this? I'll try to get under my car and take a picture. Car drives fine and breaks feel fine if that means anything.
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I can take a few more pics if need be. I'm just a bit confused about the zip ties. Zip ties and with something as important as breaks just sounds bad to me, but what do I know. Also the 3rd pic looks like the lines are going to rub against the shock, any thoughts or is that okay?

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Those brass blocks that are just hanging there are supposed to have been bolted in the stock locations. There's a mounting screw that goes through that hole in the block to hold it in place on the suspension components.

The lines are a bit stiff (but that is kind of the point) so he may have given up trying to get the line to bend/swivel to the right angle to make the block match up to the stock mounting location before he tighten the connections...but trust me it is definitely doable.

You can do it your self or take it to someone more qualified. You do not want to be relying on those zip ties on the track (I am assuming that is why you got ss lines).
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Those brass blocks that are just hanging there are supposed to have been bolted in the stock locations. There's a mounting screw that goes through that hole in the block to hold it in place on the suspension components.

The lines are a bit stiff (but that is kind of the point) so he may have given up trying to get the line to bend/swivel to the right angle to make the block match up to the stock mounting location before he tighten the connections...but trust me it is definitely doable.

You can do it your self or take it to someone more qualified. You do not want to be relying on those zip ties on the track (I am assuming that is why you got ss lines).
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Also, on the front mounting bracket...there's a nub (to keep the block from spinning once it is bolted down) that interferes with the Z1 brass block when mounted at the stock angle. You can grind the nub off or just use a couple washers to clear it. I did the later. If you don't do one of these two things then the nub will put a point load near one of the fitting joints. I wasn't comfortable clamping against the nub and loading the fitting so I worked around it but other have just left it.

Not sure why Z1 hasn't fixed this minor interference since these lines got first released. It would be very easy for them to fix but I guess it doesn't really hurt the functionality of the lines in the long run. But if you didn't know better you might think you did something wrong. I know I sat there and scratched my head over it for a few minutes. This may have confused your mechanic also so perhaps he opted to leave it unmounted on the fronts but all the same I would get rid of the zips and mount it properly.
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Here is what the front brake lines should look like:





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Those brass blocks that are just hanging there are supposed to have been bolted in the stock locations. There's a mounting screw that goes through that hole in the block to hold it in place on the suspension components.

The lines are a bit stiff (but that is kind of the point) so he may have given up trying to get the line to bend/swivel to the right angle to make the block match up to the stock mounting location before he tighten the connections...but trust me it is definitely doable.

You can do it your self or take it to someone more qualified. You do not want to be relying on those zip ties on the track (I am assuming that is why you got ss lines).
I guess he missed that... Yeah, I got them so I could track the car but now I'm wondering if I should just go back to stock at this point. I wasn't planning on tracking my car that much, just the occasional auto cross event.

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Here is what the front brake lines should look like:





Thanks for the pics!
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Man, scares me to death to think about trusting something that can kill my passenger and myself to some of these half *** parts changers out there. It's a scary scary world. Whew! I mean zip ties? Really? On brakes!
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Zip-ties. WTF! Go to somebody else. There is a left side and a right side to the hoses. So, if you try to put the hose on wrong side. It positions the hose the wrong way. Making it tougher to install, and I think that's what happened to you. I just installed these hoses in Feb. myself.
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Compare your pics to the ones I posted. Your guy got the line connections all backwards going into the brass blocks. No wonder he couldn't get the stock brackets to work...scary.
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Man, scares me to death to think about trusting something that can kill my passenger and myself to some of these half *** parts changers out there. It's a scary scary world. Whew! I mean zip ties? Really? On brakes!
Yeah. After all this I'm just going to go to a nissan dealer, go back to stock, and call it a day.
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Compare your pics to the ones I posted. Your guy got the line connections all backwards going into the brass blocks. No wonder he couldn't get the stock brackets to work...scary.
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Yeah. After all this I'm just going to go to a nissan dealer, go back to stock, and call it a day.
Dude, if you're going to the dealer, then just have them put the ss lines on correctly. There's nothing wrong with the lines, just the clown that put them on wrong the first time. These lines should route exactly the same as the stock ones so the dealer should have no problem putting them on correctly.
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Dude, if you're going to the dealer, then just have them put the ss lines on correctly. There's nothing wrong with the lines, just the clown that put them on wrong the first time. These lines should route exactly the same as the stock ones so the dealer should have no problem putting them on correctly.
Yeah, after thinking about it for a while I may just do that. I'll talk with the mechanic and see what he thinks. I'll admit I freaked out a little bit. I also wanted to say this has nothing to do with Z1. They're a good shop with good products/service, and I just got unlucky with an inexperienced mechanic in my local area

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