spc rear camber arms same as 350z?

cv129

Jay, I must admit that you've handle yourself in a calm manner in the face of criticism. Kudos to you on that

Issue is, this forum has grown enough to become a source of reference for 370z. Question you have are questions that ppl have asked, and there were people before us that took their time to respond. You've blatantly disregarded the above (let alone common sense to look up part #s or call the alignment shops). You disregarded the wealth of knowledge that ppl have already built up and chose to have ppl spoon feed you the answers. There is no reason for anyone to respect that.

You've done we'll enough to afford a 370z, I believe you have enough intelligence and common sense to do basic research.

What we are seeing is that you've been intentionally lazy.

JAYNO20

The only thing that I have intentionally done is rely on a forum for information. Apparently shame on me for hoping that people who have already done all this to their cars would have some input. I don't really have the time in my day to sit on the phone with alignment shops and other businesses so I was hoping for a quick answer from the people who have been there done that.

I feel like this thread alone is a very good example of why I make these posts. There are multiple people in here with the same question that I posted.

I guess that gives everyone the right to act like I am committing murder.


After all this posting and lengthy reasons why I suck, wouldn't it have just been easier to give the answer and be nice about it instead?

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cv129

It's easier to contact SPC (or even SPL) on your own, then post a thread and contribute to the wealth of knowledge.

Nope you don't suck, you've done something right to afford the car you are driving, you are smart enough, you just chose not to apply logics/common sense and rely on spoon feeding.

I won't derail this longer, feel free to pm me if you think it's needed. Good luck with your journey on modifying the z.

BrandonSS

a lot of shitty responses in this thread. I just searched myself "350z camber" in this forum and only netted a few results. None clarify the answer other that people saying no and yes. No proof either way. Anyone have a link to a thread showing a comparison or an attempt??

Baer383

The 350 suspension components are different and don't fit.

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cheshirecat

Incorrect.

Most rear camber arms and toe bolts will work fine between the 350z, G35, G37 (without active rear steering) and 370z.

Ichiba, for instance, makes one part that fits all the models listed above. Eibach does the same. SPC also uses the same part between G35's and G37's, and 350z's. Other vendors may have made small changes between models (such as a bend in the arm versus straight), but they're insignificant IMO.

Also, if it matters, I've put the same arm/toe bolt kit on both my 350 and 370 and it worked fine in both applications.

Baer383

Then why does SPC have differant part numbers for the 350 and the 370?

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BrandonSS

Interesting! Finally, someone that has ACTUALLY attempted it with an answer.

Baer, I assume it's like many other markets. They put a slight bend in it and charge more because the car is newer and worth more, meaning the owners will likely spend more money. I could be wrong and I'm still all ears(eyes in this case) but, I'm intrigued.

jujubii

just cuz it fits and works doesn't mean the part was R&D'ed for the 370z. If or when the 350z part fails on your 370z, I'm pretty sure SPC wouldn't offer any warranty or support.

in the end, it's your car and your call. if you wanna save a couple of bucks... by all means.

BrandonSS

I'm not looking for the answer to save a few bucks. I'm just curious. And, like said before if one has the parts for their 350 and upgrade, what could they keep around?

As far as R&D'd... isnt the 370 lighter than the HR 350z's? Not looking at a pure engineering aspect, but the forces should be less than that of a 350z in cornering, meaning that the 350z arms should be beefier or stronger than needed on a 370. No?

Sh0velMan

I don't think any company that makes aftermarket stuff does any real FEA/CAM work to this effect. The fact that most all of them use big thick steel parts pretty much tells you that. They can be reasonably sure that if they make it with heavier gauge steel tube than the stock part used, it's going to be plenty strong enough.

There are, however, exceptions and those exceptions cost $$$.

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cheshirecat

I don't know if you've actually done any rear end work on either platform, but the camber arm and toe bolt assembly are virtually identical between the two.

I'm not advocating substituting incompatible parts to save a few bucks. However, when you search on ebay and see "350z" arms for 65 bucks, then "370z" arms for 110 and THEY'RE THE SAME EXACT PART, you'd be retarded to just throw down the extra cash to make yourself feel better.

As far as the different part numbers, like I mentioned in my other reply- some vendors will make small changes to the unit to differentiate it from another functionally identical item, especially when one generation is phased out and an updated chassis is released to replace it.

It's the same thing Audi does with Bentley parts in some cases. Guess which one has the higher markup, yet come out of the same parts bin.

SPC, like any other company, is in business to make money. "Updating" a functionally identical part to keep it relevant during evolving product cycles is a great strategy and I hope it pays off for them. Apparently, they have some people that definitely buy into that kinda thing.

cheshirecat

I get what you're saying, but cornering pressures on suspension pieces aren't that cut and dry. However, you're on the right track.

From an engineering standpoint, a part is made to bear a certain amount of maximum load before failure. If one vehicle has the capacity to generate 50% of that load at max power, and the other has the capacity to generate 55%, you'd be safe to assume that the part can handle the loads from both vehicles without an issue.

just to add a nugget to the discussion... the 02-06 Maxima also uses the same arms and toe bolts.

It's almost like Nissan shares parts between different platforms. I wonder why they would do that.

One more- the 02-06 Altima also uses the same parts....

need I go on good sirs

jujubii

judging by the pictures posted in the listing or what? lmfao.

you said, some original design manufacturers -not vendors- makes small changes to a unit to differentiate it from it's predecessor to make profit... 1) it's only in bad taste if it has no purpose 2) it's really only an allegation until proven.
Just because there was a small tweak made to an updated version for an updated platform doesn't mean it was meaningless. Conversely, you may question if it was meaningful, but you can't really know unless you did some sort of analysis or were a part of the design process. That's just something the consumer buys into. (For the record, I'm a spl fan).

Just because they look the same doesn't mean they are the same. Maybe they've done additional testing (or testing if at all as Sh0velMan speculates) on the new change, maybe they haven't. we don't really know; I think we can all agree that only they truly know (unless you or a whistleblower, I'm not aware of, has worked for them).

I'm not saying that you're 'advocating substituting incompatible parts to save a few bucks'; I'm sorry for your incorrect inference. I'm saying that you're 'advocating substituting potentially incompatible parts to save a few bucks'. I say potentially because spc has not given the green light on using an older version, spc has specifically listed a newer&updated model, and there isn't much proof for it's structural integrity (maybe functional integrity because some have expressed they have it installed and it 'works'). You can argue that there isn't much proof for the structural integrity of the predecessor to begin with, but I would say that, again, it's something (the branding) the consumer buys into.

But I digress... if want to use the 350z rear camber arms for the 370z, who am I to stop you? It's your car. Just dont expect much support from spc.

cheshirecat

Okay.