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racerxj17 07-02-2009 01:58 PM

how low is too low?
 
apparently my base measurement pre drop were inaccurate. they were roughly 28" F and 28 1/4" R to the fender directly above the center of the wheel, from the ground. so i spent alot of man hours (on off on off suspension) and got it to 26 3/4" F and 27" R. drop of 1.25". i could care less of scraping the driveways, and i have no issues with the rear hitting, but i do the front.

if i jump on the gas hard, and let off sharply, the engine braking pulls the front down enough to scrape the chin spoiler.

additionally, there is a nascar-like freeway exit by my house (3 lanes, very banked, concrete) that i was able to scrape both the mud flap and chinspolier on with ease (outside corner). even pulled out the clips on the spolier.


anyways, i know, raise it up. i just have not seen too many people complain at this 1.25" drop. if anyone could get a quick measurement of their stock Z, perhaps i am much lower than i think i am.

thanks!

M.Bonanni 07-02-2009 02:45 PM

Is this on the stock wheels/tires? What dampening settings are you at on your coilovers?

racerxj17 07-02-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 105022)
Is this on the stock wheels/tires? What dampening settings are you at on your coilovers?

stock wheels tires. (of course it will be some F14's soon as i see the one gentlemen who is getting black on white so i can decide on color!!)

the shocks are set in the middle, which i believe is 15 (from either end, 30 clicks available).

it feel great, but a little stiff around town.

M.Bonanni 07-02-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 105027)
stock wheels tires.

the shocks are set in the middle, which i believe is 15 (from either end, 30 clicks available).

it feel great, but a little stiff around town.

Hmmm. A 1.25" drop doesn't seem like it would be that low.

racerxj17 07-02-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 105029)
Hmmm. A 1.25" drop doesn't seem like it would be that low.

ill get some pics later to let everyone see the drop, but that is what i was thinking. especially with the stiffer coil overs (which i am VERY happy with BTW)

im thinking i must have been in too much of a rush and mismeaursed the first time :confused:

M.Bonanni 07-02-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 105031)
ill get some pics later to let everyone see the drop, but that is what i was thinking. especially with the stiffer coil overs (which i am VERY happy with BTW)

Good, glad you are liking them!

Caravanshaka 07-02-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 105027)
stock wheels tires. (of course it will be some F14's soon as i see the one gentlemen who is getting black on white so i can decide on color!!)

the shocks are set in the middle, which i believe is 15 (from either end, 30 clicks available).

it feel great, but a little stiff around town.

As soon as they come in I am heading straight to get them mounted, then home to do a quick wash and a few pics for everyone here :icon18:

Heading out in a minute to go see what my measurements are for you

jmlenz 07-02-2009 05:28 PM

I have stock measurements for my bone stock sport package setup (fender center to ground) for all wheels at home. I will post later tonight.

Caravanshaka 07-02-2009 05:32 PM

stock with sport package:

Front 27 3/4"
Rear 28"

jmlenz 07-03-2009 04:53 PM

stock w/sport too...measured on flat ground and verified all tires @35psi

F: 27 3/4
R: 27 7/8

racerxj17 07-03-2009 05:03 PM

thanks guys. looks like my measurement were probably correct. oh well, i guess i found the limit of lowering for myself......


:ugh2:

Caravanshaka 07-03-2009 05:14 PM

sounds like you might be getting too much body-roll. Have you thought about stiffening the sways to match the coilovers?

Just a thought

racerxj17 07-03-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 105784)
sounds like you might be getting too much body-roll. Have you thought about stiffening the sways to match the coilovers?

Just a thought

i have hotchkis sways....

Caravanshaka 07-03-2009 06:09 PM

well that is me not reading your sig and seeing that =)

I got nothin' then. The eibachs are 1 inch drop, I can't imagine going 1/4" lower would make that much of a difference.

azn370z 07-03-2009 06:24 PM

I would still like pics? I think it's normal to scratch the plastic in front of the wheels.

racerxj17 07-03-2009 06:44 PM

here you go- car is dirty. let me know what you guys think of the drop- from the eibach pics i have seen, my car looks more than .25 lower?

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_2130.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_2131.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_2132.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_2133.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_2134.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_2135.jpg[/IMG]

Caravanshaka 07-03-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 105828)
I would still like pics? I think it's normal to scratch the plastic in front of the wheels.

I scrape my chin spoiler/wheel deflectors at least once a week and I am stock ride height. It's the mud flaps that surprised me.

Your car doesn't look any lower than DDmotorsports' car, however he is running a little stiffer spring rate front and back. But until this week he was using the stock sway bars as well. Maybe pull it up an 1/8th of an inch and see if you feel a difference. 1/8th of an inch won't be noticeable for looks, but might make all the difference for scraping.

on another note, man those stock wheels look tucked dropped like that, lol.

Zerafian 07-03-2009 11:25 PM

I wouldnt worry about the bottom of the front bumper scraping honestly. The Z has a small black lip that protects the painted part of the bumper anyways.I would just worry about going over steep paved enterance ways,,AKA really small steep hills. Youll scrape your under carriage all to sh*t no matter how slow you go over it.

I speak from experience with a 1.5" drop all around on my Z..It looks beautiful but you need to be really really slow over any hills. slopped enterance ways or bumpy roads.

jmlenz 07-05-2009 07:54 PM

Hmm...your car doesnt look too low at all. I only look **slighty** lower than the Eibach drop on stockies? you must be getting a lot of sway which is weird since your running Hotchkis?

Phimosis 07-06-2009 03:06 PM

I measured 27.7"F 27.8"R (full tank)

I I lowered to 26.0" (-1.7") and it was not usable as a sports car. As a poseur car, it would be cool, but not livable if you had any driveways you wanted to get in to.

I went up to 26.3" (-1.4") and it was close to being usable as a sports car, but really difficult on driveways and with fender rubbing on heavy cornering loads and chin spoiler scraping under braking.

Then I went to 26.5" (-1.2") and it's now tolerable. Chin spoiler still crapes under braking. I still have to be careful with exhaust going over speed bumps and chin spoiler in driveways. But, nothing scraped on the open road other than chin spoiler during performance driving.

Most recently I went to 15 mm Ichiba spacers front and rear with 275/35/19 F and 305/30/19 R at 26.5". The fronts now scrape the fender liners under heavy cornering. The rears are just fine.

I have Megan Racing dampers, with 30 position damping as well. I run #10 from firmest. It is very firm, but keeps nose from touching down so often.

Sounds like the performance of my setup is very similar to yours. It's tolerable, but you have to be careful with it.... good for a weekend play car, but not good for a daily driver.

CrownR426 07-06-2009 03:58 PM

You going for a flush or aggressive look bro?

need4speed 07-07-2009 10:29 PM

I remember eibach cancelled there sportline springs which were supposed to
Be a 1.5 to 2.5 in drop because they felt it would have negative effects on
Ride quality n had clearance issues.
They stated the .09f .08r were the lowest they can go without negative effects.
Many of the guys on here are waiting for possible solutions from Zele n
HKS. Hoping they will design something that will drop the car 2in.
Were your springs for the 370z specifically or was it a custom retro fit?

CrownR426 07-16-2009 03:28 PM

You need thicker tires!
305's in the back pleaseee

Modshack 07-16-2009 04:00 PM

Poseurs don't care about handling...

If you do, you won''t go much beyond 1"

racerxj17 07-16-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 116076)
Poseurs don't care about handling...

If you do, you won''t go much beyond 1"

i agree, and i do care about handling. it handles perfect, just scrapes a little plastic in the process.

tonmed123 07-16-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 116029)
You need thicker tires!
305's in the back pleaseee

What size tires do you suggest to 9.5x19 and 11x19 wheels.

tonmed123 07-16-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonmed123 (Post 116240)
What size tires do you suggest to 9.5x19 and 11x19 wheels.

Sorry for got to add that the car had not drop to it just stock height.thanks

Rob@Altered 07-17-2009 10:15 AM

How low is too low...

NEVER!!!!!!
Your 370Z looks awesome with a new stance!

need4speed 07-18-2009 12:29 AM

I gotta agree also that 1" is good enough for better center of gravity
To increase handling. Going any lower will inhibit performance and
Just increase damage severity when hitting bumps.
But the guys that do it have pretty kool lookin show cars.


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