Stance GR+ or Swift spring(include camber kit)

rikkiphan1506 · 10-15-2012, 04:30 PM

Hi all,
I have a bit of trouble to decide which option should i choose for my next suspension mod.
1) Swift spring + camber kit
2) Stance GR coil
If anybody can give me ur alignment spec for the Stance without camber or bolts toe, that would be great

thanks in advance. because lots of people go with Stance without installing camber.
Well:
1) Swift spring + camber kit will give us great alignment spec and better cornering.
2) Stance GR+coil(without camber) will give us flexibility ride height, better cornering (idk if its better than swift), long lasting maybe?
I really need your advice and knowledge on this one. I am just so confused because its hard to choose. I m looking mostly for street performance and maybe sometimes at the track.(im not so crazy for track so...)
Thanks for sharing ur knowledge.

fuct · 10-15-2012, 05:44 PM

i think where your confused is what the camber kit is for..... no matter what, if you lower your vehicle or even raise it you will be affecting the camber settings making a camber kit nessesary to get back to factory alignment specs.

you dont HAVE to have a camebr kit on either springs or coilovers, but its needed if you want to get the alignment specs back to factory

so if you want to adjust the height you will need to adjust the camber....

hope this helps

370ZNISMO#704 · 10-15-2012, 06:22 PM

Well I have both. I had swifts on my Nismo and loved them and you can get back close to the -1.6 or so spec range for the rear but as I learned you should look into some toe arms.
I loved the ride quality of the swifts and the cornering was great with factory sways. But I wanted some more wheel gap gone and I planned on keeping the Nismo rays on so with that being said. I looked into the Stance GR+, I'm very happy with the stance I have now but I feel like there a little soft all the way dialed in for stiffness. But they ride smooth I also got there camber and toe bars and installed everything "which was a pain" lol and went and got my alignment done the next day I don't have my specs in front of me. But I believe the F-1.4/R-2.0 which is not bad for how low I am. If you wanna see the difference in the height and look I have a few pics up in my albums. Hope that helped if you have more questions let me know.
CHEERS!

rAiN · 10-15-2012, 06:30 PM

dont bother with the spring, just go with the coilover for anything.
i had swift spec-r for about little over 1500miles and i already ordered coilover and its on the way to my home on thursday.

rikkiphan1506 · 10-16-2012, 04:15 AM

Thanks for ur awesome advice guys. Here is wat happened after installing my 305 rear and 15mm spacers. I didnt have time to install the front spacers and idk if i should. The rear wheels poke out like this. And im worried if i can lower my car or not. Im actually planning getting swift for now since i just ordered other stuff for performance. I talked to one of the sponsor here and theytold me i can just get swift and this toe bolt
SPC Rear Camber Bolts 370Z, G35, G37
Then i can get back to alignment spec. However since my rear wheels flushing out like this, do u think it will be just fine with swift?

370ZNISMO#704 · 10-16-2012, 04:39 AM

If that's the tire size you wanna run I would get the bolts and take the spacer off install the springs And the go from there you can always run a 10mm spacer if need be because of the 305's. I think with the 15mm and the 305's on Swifts you might rub under hard cornering or a big bump on the freeway. It's gonna be really close. You can always jack the car up put it on the jackstand and use the jack to push the wheel up to check for clearance.

fuct · 10-16-2012, 09:50 AM

im slightly confused by your pic. if you look at my avatar thing to the left & the image below that is a 305 rear tire with 15mm H&R spacer using Tein springs dropped a lil over an inch. if you arnt lowered they might stick out some but not as much as you have posted.

rikkiphan1506 · 10-17-2012, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370ZNISMO#704

If that's the tire size you wanna run I would get the bolts and take the spacer off install the springs And the go from there you can always run a 10mm spacer if need be because of the 305's. I think with the 15mm and the 305's on Swifts you might rub under hard cornering or a big bump on the freeway. It's gonna be really close. You can always jack the car up put it on the jackstand and use the jack to push the wheel up to check for clearance.

You are right. I think I will just take the rear spacers out and install the Swift. And then I can always go back to 285s then install the spacers again

. But Should I install 15mm spacers for the Front? Will it fit just find with the Swift?

rikkiphan1506 · 10-17-2012, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct

im slightly confused by your pic. if you look at my avatar thing to the left & the image below that is a 305 rear tire with 15mm H&R spacer using Tein springs dropped a lil over an inch. if you arnt lowered they might stick out some but not as much as you have posted.

Yeah! my plan is going back to 285 with 15mm on. For now I will just take the spacers out. Yours look perfectly fit bro.

10-15-2012, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
rikkiphan1506 Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: San jose Posts: 131 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 13	Stance GR+ or Swift spring(include camber kit) Hi all, I have a bit of trouble to decide which option should i choose for my next suspension mod. 1) Swift spring + camber kit 2) Stance GR coil If anybody can give me ur alignment spec for the Stance without camber or bolts toe, that would be great thanks in advance. because lots of people go with Stance without installing camber. Well: 1) Swift spring + camber kit will give us great alignment spec and better cornering. 2) Stance GR+coil(without camber) will give us flexibility ride height, better cornering (idk if its better than swift), long lasting maybe? I really need your advice and knowledge on this one. I am just so confused because its hard to choose. I m looking mostly for street performance and maybe sometimes at the track.(im not so crazy for track so...) Thanks for sharing ur knowledge.

10-15-2012, 06:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
370ZNISMO#704 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 466 Drives: Nismo10,EgH22,TSX04 Rep Power: 15	Well I have both. I had swifts on my Nismo and loved them and you can get back close to the -1.6 or so spec range for the rear but as I learned you should look into some toe arms. I loved the ride quality of the swifts and the cornering was great with factory sways. But I wanted some more wheel gap gone and I planned on keeping the Nismo rays on so with that being said. I looked into the Stance GR+, I'm very happy with the stance I have now but I feel like there a little soft all the way dialed in for stiffness. But they ride smooth I also got there camber and toe bars and installed everything "which was a pain" lol and went and got my alignment done the next day I don't have my specs in front of me. But I believe the F-1.4/R-2.0 which is not bad for how low I am. If you wanna see the difference in the height and look I have a few pics up in my albums. Hope that helped if you have more questions let me know. CHEERS! __________________ 2010NISMO•305.9whp 250tq Osirus•STANCE GR+•and Camber & Toe bars•KICS R 20mm•VOSSEN CV3 20"-10.5x4•Stillen GENIII•AAM S-Line Nimso mid-pipe•CarbonSignal Sponsored car•EVOR F1mirrors•NST short shifter•Zspeed Nismo under tray.

10-16-2012, 04:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
370ZNISMO#704 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 466 Drives: Nismo10,EgH22,TSX04 Rep Power: 15	If that's the tire size you wanna run I would get the bolts and take the spacer off install the springs And the go from there you can always run a 10mm spacer if need be because of the 305's. I think with the 15mm and the 305's on Swifts you might rub under hard cornering or a big bump on the freeway. It's gonna be really close. You can always jack the car up put it on the jackstand and use the jack to push the wheel up to check for clearance. __________________ 2010NISMO•305.9whp 250tq Osirus•STANCE GR+•and Camber & Toe bars•KICS R 20mm•VOSSEN CV3 20"-10.5x4•Stillen GENIII•AAM S-Line Nimso mid-pipe•CarbonSignal Sponsored car•EVOR F1mirrors•NST short shifter•Zspeed Nismo under tray.

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10-15-2012, 05:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	i think where your confused is what the camber kit is for..... no matter what, if you lower your vehicle or even raise it you will be affecting the camber settings making a camber kit nessesary to get back to factory alignment specs. you dont HAVE to have a camebr kit on either springs or coilovers, but its needed if you want to get the alignment specs back to factory so if you want to adjust the height you will need to adjust the camber.... hope this helps

10-15-2012, 06:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
rAiN Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: va Posts: 721 Drives: 2012 370z mt Rep Power: 17	dont bother with the spring, just go with the coilover for anything. i had swift spec-r for about little over 1500miles and i already ordered coilover and its on the way to my home on thursday.

10-16-2012, 09:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	im slightly confused by your pic. if you look at my avatar thing to the left & the image below that is a 305 rear tire with 15mm H&R spacer using Tein springs dropped a lil over an inch. if you arnt lowered they might stick out some but not as much as you have posted.